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of the food reliably 1947 the Army Air

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possession of the army the game is

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rigged changed the game game-changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and kgr a the global radio

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need your help to get to the year

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like with Jimmy judge on the game change

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welcome fade to black

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the spoke radio says how're you doing hi

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you doin today is Tuesday February 26

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2009 team 57 days into the new year just

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308 days left as always we are live from

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a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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game changer network in kg ra the

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planets I am your host Jimmy Church what

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how're you doing tonight tonight barber

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lab joins us for the very first time I

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know I know before you go okay you know

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why did it take this long I get it but

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that's not what is important what is

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important is that she is here tonight

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Barbara lamb unbelievable tomorrow night

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we have a very special surprise guest

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just be patient

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I love surprises I too I love surprises

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and that'll be tomorrow night Thursday

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is another Fator night with open lines

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all night long and there you go the new

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written down you should seven four seven

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two two eight two zero five one there

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you go let's jump straight to it you can

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follow us on twitter at jay church radio

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that's what you want to do

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Twitter's where it's at Twitter all you

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know of course we have Facebook and we

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have YouTube but then there is Twitter

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and Twitter is where I hang out I do you

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know I got a I got to continue to ride

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that Facebook bear man I got to do it

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just too big same thing with YouTube

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just too big so you just got to keep

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doing it but Twitter is where I hang out

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I like Twitter Twitter's cool and you

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know I know some people out there get

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you know shadow band you know thrown in

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Twitter jail for stepping out of bounds

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and I understand all of that just play

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within the rules I I play within the

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rules I guess because I've had zero

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issues with Twitter ya know so I just do

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my thang and behave and and it's all

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good but it enables me to communicate

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with all of you and I get to post stuff

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and pick

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that's why I like Twitter just pops up

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real-time how you doing

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see that's what I'm saying right there

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how you doing how you doing deuce are

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you doing deuce alright so follow us on

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twitter at a church radio and the

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hashtag f2b q on twitter the sandbox is

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you can also email throughout the show

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jimmy at jimmy church radio.com people

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still use email they do they really do

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they do Franky four fingers already in

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the house he's got look at that that's a

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computer rig right there if you've got

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all of that on one screen

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he's got the bunker cam he's got one two

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three four five six seven Twitter feeds

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up that's a man that is connected

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connected you know what I'm gonna do

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next I'm gonna let you know now and and

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I'm doing this so Rita can hear this

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live on the air that way I don't have to

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say it to her or ask her if I can do it

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in person see if I do it on the air then

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it softens the blow right I can do that

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and get away with it you know what I'm

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gonna do I'm gonna get all curved

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screens I've got these are getting too

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small for me and I've just got to get so

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what I'm thinking about I was gonna get

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three screens but I'm not I'm going to

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get two screens that's what I'm gonna do

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I'm gonna get two large curved screens

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that's all I'm going to do that's right

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two big ones so I think I'm gonna go I

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don't know 20

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6:28 I think two of those there's almost

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three feet so that would be six feet of

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screens curved yeah I'm down for that

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and that's my next move that's my next

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move that's my next move it's either

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that or another guitar and and I have to

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make a choice so I'm going with the

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curved screens curved screen oh if I do

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it but there'll be a split in the middle

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maybe I do have to go with three Rita I

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thought it would be easier to get three

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is tough but I am set up for three

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because of my monitor bar that I have

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here I've got I've got the three

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monitors going across so maybe I should

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just get three three curved ones and

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just pop pop pop and and just do that

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well Rita to was an idea but you know

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what I can't have a split here in the

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middle no I got to have one curved and

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then two curved on the wings yeah all

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right but that's my next move and it's

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going to be very very soon all right

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breaking news let's get to that right

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now former Trump attorney Michael Cohen

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has been disbarred in New York that was

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announced today disbarred that's it

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while he's going to prison anyway we can

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wonderfully can can practice law in

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other states you know a lot of attorneys

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do that

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all right I wonder if he's gonna be

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disbarred across the country because

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what if what if he does he's is he

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I guess he's doing federal time and what

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if he you know okay so well if he's if

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he's got to go to prison in New York

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that answers that idea but yeah

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interesting question a guy like Michael

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Cohen right a crooked attorney that

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guy's got a lot of jail business in

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front of him and

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he's gonna he's gonna be eating free

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he's gonna get all the action he wants

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at the commissary think about that you

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know a crooked attorney in prison that

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everybody knows you're in you're in my

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codes gonna be smooth all right anyway

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since the scorching hot summer of 2006

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almost 3000 archaeological artifacts

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have been showing up in the melting ice

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in upland in northern Norway among them

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an Iron Age tunic iron age a 1500 year

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old arrow and a 34 hundred year old shoe

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3,000 artifacts so far and what's

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incredible about it is instead of having

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to dig in the dirt like traditional

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archaeologists aplans archaeologists

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simply walk around that's all they do

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they walk around and look at their feet

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that said it's all they do because

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they're tripping over everything it's

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right there I stars artifacts are on the

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surface they just go out and have a

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leisurely stroll and they're doing their

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job and it's all going down right now in

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oppland northern Norway the the glaciers

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there are just melting they're

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disappearing all right I announced last

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but I always think every time I Michael

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Bolton I think of office space and so

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there's that funny scene in office babe

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then there's the interview when

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everybody's doing the layoffs and

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homeboy goes so what's your favorite

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that's where I'm coming from alright our

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dead guys birthday today is Johnny Cash

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1932 to 2003 died at the age of 71 and

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of course you've got Ring of Fire I walk

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the line a boy named Sue Folsom Prison

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Blues and one of his last if not his

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greatest rusty cage and I know he's

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listening right now happy birthday

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Johnny Cash on this day in history 1949

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that's right I always say it - it went

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down well it did from Carswell Air Force

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Base in Fort Worth Texas the lucky lady

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to

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of b-50 superfortress takes off on the

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first non-stop round-the-world flight on

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this day in 1949 and if you just stop

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and think about that you know the Wright

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brothers 1903

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you know flew for about 50 feet but they

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flew you know 1903 whatever was 100 feet

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but they got off the ground ain't

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motorized you know so they they flew in

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just 45 years later 45 years they're

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flying around the world non-stop that's

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that's crazy to me that's crazy

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that's crazy i I don't know what that

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technical leap was but we had it all

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over the place and it just happened so

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fast in that little four decade window

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you know from electricity from Street

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from gas lamps all the way to nuclear

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bombs and jet planes in four decades

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that's nuts

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vetted I K is catalogue is one of the

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most published books in the world and as

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widely circulated as the bible and the

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qur'an and that is your fader fact

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tonight Barbara Lam joins us for the

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very first time and tomorrow and

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tomorrow night is a very special

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surprise guest Thursday is another fader

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night with open lines all night long and

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we'll do all of that on Thursday really

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looking forward to hanging out with all

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of you and so before I get to my and

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that's a great Karen that's a great

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picture of Johnny Cash right there

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that's what I'm talking about

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that's cool it's a gift actually and

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there you go yeah b15 not to b-52 why I

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said be fit e50 that's a stratofortress

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I

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said Superfortress all right let me hit

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this River moon coffee somebody asked me

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over the weekend I did probably around

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not that many I did about a half a dozen

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interviews podcast and and live feeds

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and and stuff like that over the weekend

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at the conscious life Expo but once

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again over the weekend during one of

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those interviews I get the question

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right who is the one guest that I want

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to have on the show that I've never

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interviewed who's that one guest and I

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know I get the question a lot and I and

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I assume that most ask because they're

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wondering if it's somebody that I want

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to have on the show eventually that I

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haven't had on in the past okay alright

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that I get that and although I've

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answered this question pretty much the

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same every time that I get it and I get

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it a lot I go with those that I wanted

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to interview but can't write and and my

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answer is the same every time it's Lloyd

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Pye and there's lots of of great

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researchers out there that are no longer

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with us and the list is you know miles

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long I get that but Lloyd Pye is who I

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think of first and and for for so many

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reasons but I think he's funny

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very smart thinks outside of the box

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great conversationalist and you know

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what he was just an all-around great guy

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a very cool guy and I just know that we

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would have had the most amazing shows

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together and so he's the one he's the

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one I think I could have just sat down

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with Lloyd and and just you know broke

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out a show anytime that we needed to do

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it a lot like Jim Marrs Jim Marrs was a

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very fun show and and John Anthony West

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who

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well you know always always great shows

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but okay and then I immediately follow

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that up with probably a little bit out

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of guilt because again equally cool is J

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Allen Hynek alright and Lloyd passed

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away not that long ago and I just missed

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that opportunity but but a J Allen Hynek

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has has been away from us for a long

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time and but I would have loved to have

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interviewed him and although that this

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is true right those are the two cats

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right the reasons are obvious why I

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can't interview them or I won't and it's

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because that they're no longer with us

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and that makes it impossible but as far

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as living today well okay if I go down

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that road its Jacques Vallee and Jacques

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of course first off he's still with us

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and I've talked to many times about

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doing this show and he's already said

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yes we've just got to find the right

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time so I can relax about Jacques

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eventually I know it will happen all

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right

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but then the other one I mean you know

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who's the other one well she's with us

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tonight

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it's Barbara Lam and I remember I

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remember the first time that I met

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Barbara she will never remember this and

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it was about ten years ago and she was

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in the audience attending a MUFON

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presentation here in Los Angeles I don't

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remember who was speaking at move on but

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she was there she was in the audience

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and I was standing in the back of the

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room and I noticed a crowd you know

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about 10 10 or 15 people clogging up the

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aisle way in between the rows of chairs

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and people scooting over you know

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whoever was sitting there and getting to

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Barbara and shaking her hand so I kind

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of step out on a look at what oh it's

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Barbara Lam Oh

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cool she's just sitting in the crowd you

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know she's just an attendee but she's

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got this crowd around her and I want

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okay all right I'm gonna do this so I

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stand in line I do I stand in line and

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eventually I work my way up and I got my

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chance to say hello I leaned over who

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was ever there and introduced myself and

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and she struck me as someone who is just

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so well I honest I don't know how else

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to say it

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she's real she's real cool too as well

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but she's also real concerned and when I

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was standing in line waiting my turn for

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my opportunity to say hello I'm also

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listening to what everybody else is

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saying to her and asking her questions

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and they're telling her stories and

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she's just very patient with everybody

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and and was answering all these varied

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questions about regression or contact or

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abduction or past lives and and all of

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these sightings that they've had she was

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very nice very pleasant and I get up and

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and she was so cool with me you know and

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that's how she hit me and I am very

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excited about having her on with us

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tonight

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Barbara and I and Rita have talked for

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years about getting Barbara on the show

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and it was just always one thing led to

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another Barbara's winging it over to

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Europe or she's researching crop circles

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some words things were just going on we

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just never got a chance to lock it down

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and we talked often by the way but

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tonight is the night and I'll say this

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if you ever get a chance to meet Barbara

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please just go up introduce yourself and

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and be prepared for pleasantness and

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have a great conversation but you also

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have to be careful of who you want to

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meet

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so I'm giving I'm giving you giving you

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the recommendation for Barbara but

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you've got to be careful who you want to

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meet because sometimes they don't

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represent who you thought they were and

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I have met some researchers out there

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that I have respected and read their

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books over the years and and listen to

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them on radio and television and then

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you go and meet them in person kind of

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get to know them a little bit and it's

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like this kind of Sachs I'm not digging

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I wish I hadn't met you and that's the

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truth

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you need to be careful because I I am

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the same as anybody else you know you

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don't meet any you know you don't meet

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these people and you hold them and you

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know you just hold them up in their

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research and the stories in their

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experiences and this is that and and

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then you turn around you know and it's

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just awful it's just awful Barbara I got

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lucky we are all lucky because Barbara

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is exactly who you think she is I

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mentioned last night on the show that I

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went out to lunch with Barbara Nancy and

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I nursed Nancy and I went out to lunch

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with Barbara and it was first off it's

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what I was hoping and expecting which

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was just a great conversation she's just

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amazing

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but when Barbara and I were talking that

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was one thing

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and Nancy decided to take over that the

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the lunch and watching Barbara's

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response to Nancy on point just shifted

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gears and went straight there with Nancy

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and the Nancy had a follow-up question

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and a follow-up question and and

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watching Barbara's eyes they shifted she

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was aren't as she was in focused and

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she's concerned

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she's really really concerned she's

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concerned about what's going on with his

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planet with us with et she is she is

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right there

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and her research is second to none and I

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don't think she will ever ever take her

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foot off the gas so tonight is a special

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night for me and a lot like when I

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mentioned erich von daniken yesterday

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about how hard this man works and how

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long he's been doing and then certainly

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Linda and Stanton Friedman been doing

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this for a very long time Barbara is

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right there with all of them it's been

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doing this for over 40 years

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so with somebody like Barbara is on a

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show like this you need to just pay

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attention pay attention and do that

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tonight Barbara lamb is our guest I am

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your host Jimmy church tomorrow night

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that's right we've got another very

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special surprise guest tomorrow night

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we'll make that announcement tomorrow

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yeah probably right before the show -

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that's when it's most fun

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Thursday is another Fator night with

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open lines all night long the new Colin

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number is seven four seven two two eight

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two zero five one

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I see all the calls coming in I'm not

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taking calls right now need to relax

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enjoy the show I'm your host Jimmy

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Church follow me on Twitter at gh radio

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I'll be right back with tonight's guest

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this is Nicole Church daughter of

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tonight our guest is Barbara Lam she is

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a licensed psychotherapist a

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hypnotherapist and a regression

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therapist who has studied ET DNA and the

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et human-hybrid phenomenon Barbara has

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conducted over 2,600 regressions with

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1,750 people who have experienced

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various kinds of encounters with

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extraterrestrial and interdimensional

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beings as one of the leading experts in

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this field Barbara has spent over four

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decades and studies research practice

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and teaching Barbara has co-authored

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three books crop circles revealed which

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I have alien experiences and meet the

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hybrids in 2016

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Barbara received the Lifetime

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Achievement Award for outstanding

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achievement in the field of ufology from

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the International UFO Congress she has

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an MS and MFT a CHT received her BA from

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Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts

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her MS degree from the University of

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Laverne right here in Southern

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California her license as a marriage and

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family therapist in California and her

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certification as a hypnotherapist from

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hypnosis motivation Institute and I

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would like to welcome for the first time

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I'm so excited

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Barbara Lam Barbara good evening how are

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you good evening I'm fine and I'm very

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happy to be talking to you Jimmy it's

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about time Barbara it's about known each

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other for quite a few years and so here

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we are so here we are and

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before we get started Barbara you get

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the first-time guests disclaimer okay

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yeah here we go Barbara it's just you

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and I sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends and where the

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conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends but we're gonna end his

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friends that's it absolutely now you

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know see this is the thing and you're

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right we've known each other for quite a

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while and we've had the opportunity to

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hang out over the years and talk but

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this is your first time on the show so I

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get to ask all the fun questions in the

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beginning that you've answered a million

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times yeah let's get all of that stuff

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out of the way because we have so much

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to discuss tonight but for me this is

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something that I've never discussed with

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you before I look at you Barbara as

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everybody does

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we admire you but you've got such an

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honest aura about you your eyes and the

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way you carry yourself and your voice

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and then so you see that you know you

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read your books and the research you see

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that and then you you're asking yourself

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like you know you just step back and go

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how did Barbara ever get here how did

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some get yes what what what happened I

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mean let's and take it take me back to

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the beginning what got you into this

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well you know it was such an interesting

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process which I never ever expected I

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never would have dreamed that I'd be

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doing this kind of work I as you

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mentioned I was educated back in

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Massachusetts a very Ivy League kind of

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education and you know very traditional

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and I was a pretty straight person in

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that sense and eventually moved to

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California and started realizing oh

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there are a lot of other aspects of life

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that are really interesting to explore

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that I had not heard of back east and

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one thing led to another and I became a

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licensed psychotherapist

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back in 1976 and I found that in my

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practice I was doing some of what I was

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thinking of as deeper work that is

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sometimes putting people into states of

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really deep relaxation and it seemed to

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be very therapeutic to them sometimes

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they would remember things that they had

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not been consciously aware of

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particularly and it seemed to be a very

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helpful process so in early 1980s I was

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traveling to other countries for

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instance Peru and then Egypt a couple of

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times and at those places there was a

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moment when I was somewhere there in one

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of the ancient ancient sites and

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suddenly had a very vivid memory of

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having been there a long time ago maybe

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even two or three thousand or more years

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ago and these little flashes I became

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accustomed to calling spontaneous past

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life recalls so that eventually led me

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in the mid 1980s to start my training as

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a past life regression therapist and at

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the last module of training which was

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1988 the woman who was doing our

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training module said very casually those

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of you who are doing regression therapy

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work need to know that sometime it's

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possible that someone will come to you

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who's been very confused baffled

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mystified maybe even traumatized by

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having been visited by very unusual

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being

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things who are not human and they're not

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animals as we know them and they seem to

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be from somewhere else in the universe

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definitely not from Earth and that

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sometimes these people are taken away

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for an hour or two and returned and they

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usually don't remember very much about

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it except maybe just the first few

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moments at the beginning of this contact

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or maybe the last couple of moments so

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they might want to come to you to do

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regression work well I was absolutely

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stunned when I heard that now this again

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is 1988 and I had previously thought

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that anything to do with ufos or

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extraterrestrial beings

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must be science fiction and not real but

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then when this therapist trainer was

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saying this in all seriousness that

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there were people who were experiencing

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these things and because we're doing

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regression therapy somebody might come

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to us for that sort of concern so right

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after she said that even more striking

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to me was that I heard a big loud voice

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in my head saying very insistently pay

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attention to this Barbara you will be

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doing this so you can imagine oh boy two

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new things you don't want that visitors

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from somewhere else come and take people

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away for a little while that was

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00:41:41,939 --> 00:41:38,319
shocking enough but then what was this

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big voice in my head it was not my voice

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I I never did find out exactly where

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00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:49,120
that came from but it was so insistent

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for me to really pay attention to this

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item and because I would be doing this

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00:42:03,930 --> 00:41:58,960
work well I had never expected anything

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like that and I found myself then went

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out doing errands I found myself looking

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for the nearest bookstore to see if

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there were any books about this subject

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and I also found myself gravitating to

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magazine stores and the area where I

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lived in Southern California I'm hoping

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to find magazine articles about this

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00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:33,130
sort of subject about UFOs and about

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:35,370
these other beings coming and

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interacting with certain people and I

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00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:42,010
did find some information about it so

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about three years later in 1991 one day

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in the shower which is a good sort of

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free flow thinking time for me I was

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thinking you know if anyone does come to

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me for that sort of reason I think I

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could handle that I think yeah I think I

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00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:08,800
could manage that I've been doing a few

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years now of regression therapy and I

803
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:16,060
could apply the same techniques oh yeah

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00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:20,980
that would be okay well two hours later

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00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:25,480
the same day they take that I was in a

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physical bookstore and the woman behind

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00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:31,690
the counter said oh aren't you popular

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don't you do regression therapy and I

809
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said yes I do

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00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:40,690
and he said well please would you work

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with my 21 year old daughter who's

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having very odd unusual beings appear in

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her room especially at night but

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00:43:56,070 --> 00:43:54,670
sometimes even during the day and they

815
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:56,080
seem to take her away

816
00:44:02,299 --> 00:43:59,130
they always bring her back but she

817
00:44:05,749 --> 00:44:02,309
is so traumatized that she can hardly

818
00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:05,759
function she had dropped out of college

819
00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:08,460
that she was going to and dropped out of

820
00:44:15,979 --> 00:44:12,359
her part-time job and was feeling very

821
00:44:19,249 --> 00:44:15,989
very dependent upon her parents for

822
00:44:22,339 --> 00:44:19,259
safety even though the parents actually

823
00:44:25,009 --> 00:44:22,349
of course couldn't make her be any more

824
00:44:28,579 --> 00:44:25,019
safe and she was continuing to have

825
00:44:31,219 --> 00:44:28,589
these visits even when she was sleeping

826
00:44:36,049 --> 00:44:31,229
between her mother and father and their

827
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:36,059
bed so the parents forgetting not only

828
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:39,450
concerned but a bit fed up with their 21

829
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:41,970
year old daughter are sleeping between

830
00:44:50,569 --> 00:44:45,089
them in their bed as you can imagine and

831
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:50,579
so they needed help well I thought oh

832
00:44:54,769 --> 00:44:52,529
yeah but since that interesting I had

833
00:44:58,219 --> 00:44:54,779
just a couple of hours ago concluded

834
00:45:03,859 --> 00:44:58,229
that I would be able to handle this and

835
00:45:06,499 --> 00:45:03,869
here it is so I saw that young woman 21

836
00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:06,509
year old woman wonderful wonderful girl

837
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:11,219
and I saw her for six sessions we did a

838
00:45:16,940 --> 00:45:14,099
regression each one of those sessions

839
00:45:20,839 --> 00:45:16,950
and all kinds of different things

840
00:45:25,099 --> 00:45:20,849
happened from these extraterrestrial

841
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,109
beings and each time she had one of

842
00:45:33,069 --> 00:45:27,599
these experiences that we did the

843
00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:33,079
regression to it was a different kind of

844
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:35,670
extraterrestrial being that was a

845
00:45:42,799 --> 00:45:40,440
surprise to me but there it was and we

846
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:42,809
found all kinds of interesting things

847
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:47,430
had happened during those episodes that

848
00:45:55,509 --> 00:45:51,680
we did the regressions - including a

849
00:46:00,920 --> 00:45:55,519
session when she was physically healed

850
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:00,930
in her bedroom at night by three very

851
00:46:09,469 --> 00:46:06,089
tall white beings pure white and they

852
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:09,479
came into her room rolled her over on

853
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:13,650
her left side and proceeded to work in

854
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:19,049
her right ear so she was conscious for

855
00:46:26,029 --> 00:46:22,710
some of that longer than most people are

856
00:46:29,749 --> 00:46:26,039
conscious of their experiences with

857
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:29,759
these beings and she was aware that they

858
00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:32,910
were doing something in her right ear

859
00:46:41,259 --> 00:46:37,380
the one that was badly infected and then

860
00:46:43,579 --> 00:46:41,269
she drifted on into a really deep sleep

861
00:46:47,299 --> 00:46:43,589
and when she woke up in the morning

862
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:47,309
those beings three of them were gone but

863
00:46:56,959 --> 00:46:53,210
her ear felt perfectly normal and stayed

864
00:47:02,079 --> 00:46:56,969
perfectly healthy via normal they had

865
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:02,089
healed her very bad ear infection so

866
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:05,400
that had happened and of course

867
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:09,089
impressed her favourably and then there

868
00:47:16,759 --> 00:47:12,210
was a daytime experience in which she

869
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:16,769
and her sister who was aged 19 at the

870
00:47:26,029 --> 00:47:20,579
time they were riding along or driving

871
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:26,039
along in a car in their suburban la town

872
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:31,380
and they began to realize that there was

873
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,690
a blue beam of light from above and that

874
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:39,119
blue beam was coming in the back window

875
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:44,089
of the car and it was just about dusk

876
00:47:52,009 --> 00:47:47,880
time so they could see this bright blue

877
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:52,019
beam of light quite clearly and as they

878
00:47:58,579 --> 00:47:55,170
were noticing the light and wondering

879
00:48:02,059 --> 00:47:58,589
about it of course the car motor started

880
00:48:05,539 --> 00:48:02,069
to sort of peter out and they pulled the

881
00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:05,549
car over and so it would be safe the bit

882
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:09,180
off the road and they happen to pull

883
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,119
over right by a field so they both

884
00:48:16,810 --> 00:48:15,359
jumped out of the car to get away from

885
00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:16,820
this beam not

886
00:48:24,340 --> 00:48:21,350
standing what it was and they jumped a

887
00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:24,350
little fence and went into a field that

888
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:26,600
was right there and started running

889
00:48:35,050 --> 00:48:29,690
across the field well the blue beam of

890
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:35,060
light hit my client in her lower back as

891
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:39,770
she was running and it felt so good all

892
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:44,630
warm and wonderful so her sister kept on

893
00:48:51,340 --> 00:48:48,610
running but she stopped to just receive

894
00:48:55,470 --> 00:48:51,350
the good feeling of this blue beam of

895
00:48:59,620 --> 00:48:55,480
light now she had had chronic back pain

896
00:49:04,630 --> 00:48:59,630
up until those moments but the beam of

897
00:49:09,010 --> 00:49:04,640
light absolutely relieved we would say

898
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:09,020
healed the chronic back condition so she

899
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:11,510
suddenly realized that she had

900
00:49:19,660 --> 00:49:15,440
absolutely no more pain she had been

901
00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:19,670
healed by the blue beam of light so

902
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:23,270
gradually her sister came back and my

903
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:26,330
client reassured her well this was

904
00:49:31,870 --> 00:49:28,850
wonderful we didn't really need to be

905
00:49:34,990 --> 00:49:31,880
afraid of it at all and they went back

906
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:35,000
to the car and drove away and life went

907
00:49:45,370 --> 00:49:39,710
on so the seventh session which she came

908
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:45,380
in for she's dead right away you know I

909
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:50,690
feel honored I feel privileged that

910
00:50:00,520 --> 00:49:56,480
these various beings have chosen me to

911
00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:00,530
work with and I'm concluding that of all

912
00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:02,150
the different types that have come and

913
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:05,750
whatever they have done that it's really

914
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:10,310
a good thing even though it had been

915
00:50:17,350 --> 00:50:13,970
very very frightening for me so that was

916
00:50:21,460 --> 00:50:17,360
great and she said that she was ready

917
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:21,470
now to move into a little cabin in kind

918
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:25,850
of a wilderness area near her town moved

919
00:50:31,210 --> 00:50:27,950
with her boyfriend

920
00:50:33,819 --> 00:50:31,220
and I said well that's good that's brave

921
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:33,829
of you and you realize of course that

922
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:36,559
these experiences with the other beings

923
00:50:42,849 --> 00:50:39,980
might continue to happen since they have

924
00:50:46,299 --> 00:50:42,859
happened for years now oh and she said

925
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:46,309
yes I know I've considered that my

926
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:49,849
boyfriend and I feel okay about that if

927
00:50:57,519 --> 00:50:53,690
they come we we will just go ahead and

928
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:57,529
accept that and not be frightened so you

929
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:01,760
see that was my very first case in 1991

930
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:06,400
of working with this sort of thing with

931
00:51:13,769 --> 00:51:10,910
extraterrestrial visits and that gave me

932
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:13,779
courage to think that well she was if

933
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:17,119
anybody else ever comes ya know I know

934
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:20,569
that I really can work with it it can be

935
00:51:26,259 --> 00:51:23,930
effective it can be very helpful for the

936
00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:26,269
person to know details of what had

937
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:30,470
happened and so I thought well that you

938
00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:33,170
know maybe some here or somebody might

939
00:51:40,749 --> 00:51:37,160
come but as it turned out about five

940
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:40,759
months later another lady came for the

941
00:51:46,019 --> 00:51:43,609
same reason because she had been visited

942
00:51:50,109 --> 00:51:46,029
all of her life that she could remember

943
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:50,119
by unusual beings and had had many

944
00:51:57,519 --> 00:51:54,170
different experiences and very typically

945
00:52:00,970 --> 00:51:57,529
she just remembered only the first

946
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:00,980
several moments of the experience and

947
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:04,400
then seemed to me out of conscious

948
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:09,670
awareness so that second lady actually

949
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:14,960
worked with me for 11 years while doing

950
00:52:23,490 --> 00:52:17,990
lots of sessions lots of hypnotic

951
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:23,500
regressions she probably did about 60

952
00:52:31,630 --> 00:52:26,960
regressions so we found out so much

953
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:31,640
about the variety of beings and the

954
00:52:35,710 --> 00:52:35,089
variety of experiences that she was

955
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:35,720
having

956
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:40,910
and even though she had been very

957
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:44,240
frightened at the very beginning of the

958
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:47,450
experiences she always found out in

959
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:50,089
regression that there were perfectly

960
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:52,910
good reasons for the beings doing what

961
00:53:00,280 --> 00:52:56,210
they did and sometimes they were even

962
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:00,290
doing wonderful things like healing her

963
00:53:10,329 --> 00:53:05,410
and teaching her how to heal others and

964
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:10,339
amping up her psychic skills and giving

965
00:53:17,710 --> 00:53:14,450
her lots of information about the other

966
00:53:21,849 --> 00:53:17,720
beings and other civilizations in the

967
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:21,859
universe and so she was concluding as

968
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:26,720
time went on this is really fascinating

969
00:53:35,770 --> 00:53:31,040
I too am pleased that I'm having these

970
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:35,780
experiences and this woman she must have

971
00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:39,410
been in her early 30s when she came to

972
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:45,470
me and she was also realizing through

973
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:48,609
our work that she was frequently

974
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:54,490
channeling an extraterrestrial being and

975
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:58,130
wonderfully she channeled frequently

976
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:02,000
when she was in my office with me which

977
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:05,530
meant that I got to speak to that

978
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:08,720
extraterrestrial being and I probably

979
00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:13,849
got to speak to him oh gosh at least 50

980
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:18,109
or 60 times Wow we sort of alternated

981
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:22,810
her channeling this being with

982
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:25,010
regressions we do regressions some

983
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:28,609
sessions and channeling the others so I

984
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:33,710
learned a lot from him the being who

985
00:54:43,210 --> 00:54:38,480
said that he lived on the binary star

986
00:54:46,359 --> 00:54:43,220
system which we call an tarae's and it

987
00:54:47,810 --> 00:54:46,369
is indeed in our star maps and there

988
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:47,820
really is

989
00:54:55,850 --> 00:54:52,170
such a place so between her channeling

990
00:55:00,830 --> 00:54:55,860
and the regressions Wow

991
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:00,840
so much opened up for me let me jump in

992
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:02,490
let me jump in Barbara because we're

993
00:55:09,590 --> 00:55:05,790
gonna head towards a break and so I'm

994
00:55:11,570 --> 00:55:09,600
gonna rudely cut you off but but what I

995
00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:11,580
wanted to ask you quickly before the

996
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:17,240
break did this force your hand into

997
00:55:22,850 --> 00:55:20,010
serious research at this point did you

998
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:22,860
have to go and and see what others were

999
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:24,990
experiencing or witnessing and other

1000
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:28,110
contactees in abduction cases we were

1001
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:33,920
you now you know therapists / researcher

1002
00:55:42,770 --> 00:55:38,310
yes I was mostly a therapist but I did

1003
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:42,780
go to the UFO congress's and I've heard

1004
00:55:49,070 --> 00:55:45,720
other lectures from people like Budd

1005
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:49,080
Hopkins and Roger Jacobson who we're

1006
00:55:54,860 --> 00:55:52,320
working with this so yeah the research

1007
00:55:57,710 --> 00:55:54,870
sort of kicked in

1008
00:56:00,260 --> 00:55:57,720
without my planning yet but I was so

1009
00:56:03,830 --> 00:56:00,270
intrigued that I was delighted to know

1010
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:03,840
as much about it as I possibly could it

1011
00:56:10,220 --> 00:56:07,650
would it would only make sense and in 60

1012
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:10,230
seconds if you could you know that would

1013
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:12,660
only make sense and did the issue for

1014
00:56:18,830 --> 00:56:16,470
you continue to just get complex it's

1015
00:56:21,110 --> 00:56:18,840
not a it's not a simple situation that

1016
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,120
we're dealing with here is it oh it's

1017
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:23,760
not simple at all because there are so

1018
00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:28,110
many many different kinds of beings from

1019
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:31,140
different parts of the universe and they

1020
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:34,650
each have their own agenda so when I

1021
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:37,290
worked with that second woman and then

1022
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:40,400
and many others after it's been about

1023
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:44,400
2000 individuals now whom I have worked

1024
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:46,770
with on their extraterrestrial

1025
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:49,680
encounters so there's a tremendous

1026
00:56:56,270 --> 00:56:53,220
variety of beings that come and interact

1027
00:57:00,430 --> 00:56:56,280
with people and they they all seem to

1028
00:57:05,710 --> 00:57:00,440
have their own program their their own

1029
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:05,720
or agenda or coming so there's a lot to

1030
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:08,630
this picture there is there is let's

1031
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:10,610
take a break right here we'll pick up

1032
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,470
right where we're leaving off Barbara in

1033
00:57:16,270 --> 00:57:14,240
just a few short minutes

1034
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:16,280
this is fade to black I'm Meryl Jimmy

1035
00:57:21,460 --> 00:57:18,490
Churchill our guest tonight Barbara lamb

1036
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:21,470
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00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:24,110
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00:57:32,170 --> 00:57:31,220
Q can also email Jimmy and Jimmy turns

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00:57:33,820 --> 00:57:32,180
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00:57:37,450 --> 00:57:33,830
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00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:37,460
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1043
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Barbara after this short break

1044
00:57:52,019 --> 00:57:40,110
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1045
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:54,760
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00:58:01,470 --> 00:57:57,250
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welcome back paid to black hub news two

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meters tonight our guest is Barbara Lam

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01:03:23,650 --> 01:03:20,809
tomorrow I would got a very special

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01:03:24,849 --> 01:03:23,660
surprise in store for you you have to

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stay tuned for that

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01:03:27,849 --> 01:03:26,990
Thursday night is open lines all night

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long it is

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Fator night but tonight it is Barbara

1160
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:35,540
Lam and Barbara okay so this is what I

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01:03:40,589 --> 01:03:37,609
find interesting you've got a

1162
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:40,599
professional career happening this

1163
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:44,650
literally falls in your lap now you are

1164
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:48,890
getting into the UFO community you start

1165
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:52,240
attending seminars and conferences and

1166
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,200
the but before that you hadn't had any

1167
01:04:03,339 --> 01:03:59,599
interest in UFOs probably in those

1168
01:04:06,370 --> 01:04:03,349
sightings right but but what what is

1169
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:06,380
going on now did you have any sightings

1170
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:08,210
after that did you yourself have any

1171
01:04:16,630 --> 01:04:13,599
contact well I did not for a few years

1172
01:04:18,819 --> 01:04:16,640
but after I had really gotten involved

1173
01:04:23,140 --> 01:04:18,829
in this and more and more people were

1174
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:23,150
coming and I was learning more and more

1175
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:28,400
through these regressions by about 1994

1176
01:04:35,710 --> 01:04:33,170
I realized that I had 17 clients who

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01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:35,720
were coming and my regular therapy

1178
01:04:44,890 --> 01:04:38,630
clients - who had nothing to do with

1179
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:44,900
this but 17 clients coming and having

1180
01:04:52,359 --> 01:04:49,369
regressions and one by one a few of them

1181
01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:52,369
started asking gee is there anyone else

1182
01:04:59,049 --> 01:04:56,660
I can meet and talk with about these

1183
01:05:02,920 --> 01:04:59,059
things that is other people who are

1184
01:05:08,829 --> 01:05:02,930
having these encounters Barbara are you

1185
01:05:11,319 --> 01:05:08,839
moving your microphone around a little

1186
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:11,329
farther from your mouth there's some

1187
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:14,809
noise okay okay is that better yes it is

1188
01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:19,390
okay okay so so back to this 1994-1995

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01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:23,280
yep so um I decided well

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01:05:30,830 --> 01:05:28,020
why don't I get the 17 of them together

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01:05:35,330 --> 01:05:30,840
in a meeting so that was the beginning

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01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:35,340
of my experience or support group and I

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01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:38,550
realized how valuable that was each

1194
01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:43,200
person was so grateful that they were

1195
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:46,200
able to talk to somebody else who was

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01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:49,290
experiencing these mysterious things so

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01:05:57,980 --> 01:05:53,460
that was really good and also I had been

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going to crop circles for four years at

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that point crop circles in England every

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01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:04,170
summer is becoming a very avid crop

1201
01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:08,940
circle research as well and then the

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:11,880
entity that channeled through that

1203
01:06:21,620 --> 01:06:14,850
second client whom I've been talking

1204
01:06:25,790 --> 01:06:21,630
about that entity said that if I wanted

1205
01:06:32,330 --> 01:06:25,800
to I could be taken for the making of a

1206
01:06:34,550 --> 01:06:32,340
crop circle this et entity knew that I

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:34,560
was going to England and was very

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01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:37,970
involved in researching that sonam anon

1209
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:43,020
so he said that if I wanted to I could

1210
01:06:51,070 --> 01:06:48,210
just ask out loud vehemently to the

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01:06:53,690 --> 01:06:51,080
beings who were doing the crop circles

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01:06:58,610 --> 01:06:53,700
even though I didn't know who they were

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01:07:00,860 --> 01:06:58,620
and just ask them and keep it up for a

1214
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:00,870
while not just one little question or

1215
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:03,930
one little plea but you know talk to

1216
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:06,210
them for a while and let them know that

1217
01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:10,950
I really had very strong intent of being

1218
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:13,080
taken for the making of a crop circle

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01:07:22,550 --> 01:07:18,960
so that's summer on my way to Los

1220
01:07:25,610 --> 01:07:22,560
Angeles Airport to fly to England for

1221
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:25,620
about 45 minutes on the 405 freeway

1222
01:07:31,790 --> 01:07:29,250
mm-hmm I was talking to these beings and

1223
01:07:34,590 --> 01:07:31,800
not knowing who they were but getting

1224
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:34,600
more and more impassioned

1225
01:07:41,710 --> 01:07:38,450
about it yes I would really love to have

1226
01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:41,720
that experience so I arrived in England

1227
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:44,870
and did all kinds of wonderful things so

1228
01:07:53,860 --> 01:07:49,760
many crop circles etc and about three

1229
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:53,870
and a half weeks later I was realizing

1230
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that I had only one more day to see crop

1231
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:01,430
circles before I would fly home again so

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that last night before the last day I

1233
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:10,880
asked again of the beings again not

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01:08:15,940 --> 01:08:13,130
knowing who they were or what they were

1235
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:15,950
like to be taken for the making of a

1236
01:08:26,289 --> 01:08:21,290
crop circle and I believe that I was

1237
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:26,299
taken I saw in my room after turning off

1238
01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:28,370
the bedside lamp

1239
01:08:36,970 --> 01:08:32,270
I saw three beings approaching me from

1240
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:36,980
the area of the window and I closed my

1241
01:08:44,530 --> 01:08:42,080
eyes and didn't know anything else until

1242
01:08:49,210 --> 01:08:44,540
the alarm clock woke me up the next

1243
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:49,220
morning well I was the one who

1244
01:08:58,289 --> 01:08:54,080
discovered the new crop circle that

1245
01:09:03,010 --> 01:08:58,299
happened during that night and I just

1246
01:09:05,380 --> 01:09:03,020
felt so in love with it really it may

1247
01:09:08,410 --> 01:09:05,390
sound a little bit strange but it was a

1248
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:08,420
beautiful wonderful experience being in

1249
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:12,319
a brand new crop circle full of energy

1250
01:09:19,900 --> 01:09:15,710
and full of the little sound of crackle

1251
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:19,910
and pop like rice krispies and I felt

1252
01:09:27,789 --> 01:09:23,930
very connected to that crop circle so

1253
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:27,799
when I got home again about two weeks

1254
01:09:35,289 --> 01:09:31,910
later I had a colleague regress me to

1255
01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:35,299
that experience and it showed that the

1256
01:09:42,130 --> 01:09:38,390
three beings who had come toward my bed

1257
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:42,140
in the room the previous night actually

1258
01:09:45,849 --> 01:09:44,690
took me up through the wall where it

1259
01:09:52,180 --> 01:09:45,859
meets the ceiling

1260
01:09:54,220 --> 01:09:52,190
and onto a small craft and we flew a few

1261
01:10:00,040 --> 01:09:54,230
minutes a couple minutes probably and

1262
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:00,050
then stopped over a wheat field your

1263
01:10:03,010 --> 01:10:00,650
Myka

1264
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:03,020
Barbara have to jump in your microphone

1265
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:09,770
is making noise yeah it's covering up

1266
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:14,000
this wonderful story so okay let's but

1267
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:20,210
okay so let's back back up to you had

1268
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,690
felt really good the the rice krispies

1269
01:10:26,290 --> 01:10:25,520
you felt really good about the

1270
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:26,300
experience

1271
01:10:33,850 --> 01:10:30,310
yeah let's pick up right there okay so

1272
01:10:36,970 --> 01:10:33,860
the next day I flew home and a couple of

1273
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:36,980
weeks later I had a regression therapy

1274
01:10:44,020 --> 01:10:40,580
colleague regrets me to that experience

1275
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:44,030
and I got the details of being taken

1276
01:10:50,710 --> 01:10:47,930
onto that small craft and flying a

1277
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:50,720
couple of minutes stopping over a wheat

1278
01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:53,570
field in the middle of the night and

1279
01:11:02,290 --> 01:11:00,080
then I heard a swooshing noise coming

1280
01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:02,300
from the bottom of the craft and it

1281
01:11:14,590 --> 01:11:11,240
seemed to be making a crop circle and so

1282
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:14,600
I sort of followed it as it seemed to be

1283
01:11:23,980 --> 01:11:19,250
moving around in a circle and making a

1284
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:23,990
swooshing sound every second or so as if

1285
01:11:35,290 --> 01:11:30,290
it was making a circle a circle of

1286
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:35,300
circles and anyway that was it it was

1287
01:11:44,260 --> 01:11:40,640
just very quick only took a minute or so

1288
01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:44,270
at the most and then I was aware that we

1289
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:47,270
were flying back in another direction

1290
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:51,530
and then I must have been returned to my

1291
01:11:57,580 --> 01:11:55,610
hotel room don't recall that from the

1292
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:57,590
regression and then I didn't know

1293
01:12:04,090 --> 01:11:59,840
anything until I woke

1294
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:04,100
with the alarm clock the next morning so

1295
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:08,090
that was my indication that I really had

1296
01:12:14,650 --> 01:12:10,490
been taken for the making of the crop

1297
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:14,660
circle and as it turned out the pattern

1298
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:18,290
of that particular crop circle really

1299
01:12:26,490 --> 01:12:22,550
felt what I had experienced on the

1300
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:26,500
little craft like a swooshing nor is

1301
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:31,880
making a circle and it really matched up

1302
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:35,600
perfectly with what that pattern was so

1303
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:39,170
that that was really an exquisite

1304
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:44,810
experience yeah and be straight with me

1305
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:48,110
okay be really straight now okay did you

1306
01:13:02,350 --> 01:12:59,120
think you were going crazy because by

1307
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:02,360
that time 1994 I had done so many

1308
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:04,730
regressions with people to their

1309
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:07,970
extraterrestrial experiences that it

1310
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:11,810
seemed really quite normal and I also

1311
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:15,130
felt very excited and very privileged

1312
01:13:23,950 --> 01:13:18,910
that they had answered my request and

1313
01:13:27,580 --> 01:13:23,960
trusted me in a sense to take for the

1314
01:13:29,650 --> 01:13:27,590
making of the crop circle now with other

1315
01:13:32,740 --> 01:13:29,660
researchers out there like bud bud

1316
01:13:35,470 --> 01:13:32,750
Hopkins and and David Jacobs and of

1317
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:35,480
course there's Yvonne Smith and a lot of

1318
01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:37,930
really great therapists out there but

1319
01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:41,300
then you have the experiencers side of

1320
01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:45,430
it where I understand there must be

1321
01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:47,870
thousands of different races that are

1322
01:13:53,260 --> 01:13:49,670
coming here there's billions of planets

1323
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:53,270
and our galaxy and and the universe is

1324
01:14:00,280 --> 01:13:55,730
just so vast and so big it's not just

1325
01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:00,290
one but that being said Barbara there

1326
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:02,750
are those out there that are not happy

1327
01:14:10,410 --> 01:14:05,209
with their experiences and

1328
01:14:13,509 --> 01:14:10,420
and they can be very disturbing mean

1329
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:13,519
awful and then others out there that

1330
01:14:20,169 --> 01:14:16,010
it's a wonderful experience

1331
01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:20,179
and and they you know so the question of

1332
01:14:26,109 --> 01:14:23,150
being Mennella nor benevolent it sounds

1333
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:26,119
like your experiences generally have

1334
01:14:29,379 --> 01:14:27,530
been very positive

1335
01:14:31,989 --> 01:14:29,389
but then there's the other ones that

1336
01:14:34,689 --> 01:14:31,999
that are really dark and and sinister

1337
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:34,699
what do you think is going on here well

1338
01:14:40,060 --> 01:14:37,130
I think there there is all of what you

1339
01:14:43,989 --> 01:14:40,070
mentioned for sure from a dark and

1340
01:14:47,469 --> 01:14:43,999
sinister one's to more neutral ones once

1341
01:14:50,879 --> 01:14:47,479
we would consider more neutral and and

1342
01:14:54,899 --> 01:14:50,889
then some positive experiences with

1343
01:14:59,290 --> 01:14:54,909
lovely beings and some extremely

1344
01:15:03,810 --> 01:14:59,300
positive beings experiences with some of

1345
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:03,820
these beings and those tend to be

1346
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:09,170
sometimes more human-like beings and

1347
01:15:15,790 --> 01:15:12,729
sometimes they seem to be

1348
01:15:19,660 --> 01:15:15,800
interdimensional beings some of them are

1349
01:15:23,250 --> 01:15:19,670
so benevolent it seems to these people

1350
01:15:26,469 --> 01:15:23,260
who experience them and these beings are

1351
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:26,479
glowing with light sometimes they're

1352
01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:31,030
almost transparent but described as

1353
01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:34,719
glowing with a beautiful light and a

1354
01:15:43,149 --> 01:15:39,320
feeling of unconditional love that they

1355
01:15:47,259 --> 01:15:43,159
radiate out so I think the difference is

1356
01:15:51,339 --> 01:15:47,269
because there are all these different

1357
01:15:55,839 --> 01:15:51,349
beings some of them definitely seem to

1358
01:15:59,620 --> 01:15:55,849
be more self-serving and they come with

1359
01:16:03,459 --> 01:15:59,630
a specific agenda and they just carry

1360
01:16:07,179 --> 01:16:03,469
out that agenda no matter what like the

1361
01:16:10,359 --> 01:16:07,189
poking and probing and thinking of

1362
01:16:14,259 --> 01:16:10,369
different samples of the person's body

1363
01:16:18,250 --> 01:16:14,269
as we hear about quite a bit some of

1364
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:18,260
those procedures seem very in vain

1365
01:16:25,779 --> 01:16:21,920
said that of course not wanted at all

1366
01:16:29,109 --> 01:16:25,789
and some of the beings look pretty

1367
01:16:34,089 --> 01:16:29,119
frightening to the people who experience

1368
01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:34,099
them for instance there are some that

1369
01:16:40,990 --> 01:16:38,630
looked like beetles sort of or the

1370
01:16:44,979 --> 01:16:41,000
little grey beings with big heads and

1371
01:16:47,859 --> 01:16:44,989
spindly little bodies and big black eyes

1372
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:47,869
that don't seem to move you know they

1373
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:51,260
have no expression in them more

1374
01:16:59,939 --> 01:16:55,630
expression on the faces also some of the

1375
01:17:04,629 --> 01:16:59,949
reptilian types people really do not

1376
01:17:08,589 --> 01:17:04,639
like having encounters with but on the

1377
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:08,599
other hand there are beings who maybe

1378
01:17:16,270 --> 01:17:12,070
are gray type but they're taller and

1379
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:16,280
maybe five foot seven or eight or so

1380
01:17:25,689 --> 01:17:20,030
different shades of gray or even tan or

1381
01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:25,699
brown but the same general look as what

1382
01:17:33,459 --> 01:17:29,840
we think of as the little greys and

1383
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:33,469
those beings seem to be more decent and

1384
01:17:41,770 --> 01:17:38,719
even helpful in many cases there were

1385
01:17:43,419 --> 01:17:41,780
little white beings too then are like

1386
01:17:49,899 --> 01:17:43,429
the little greys but they're white and

1387
01:17:53,620 --> 01:17:49,909
they have round eyes with pupils they

1388
01:17:57,729 --> 01:17:53,630
have expressiveness in their eyes and

1389
01:18:01,330 --> 01:17:57,739
expressiveness in their faces and they

1390
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:01,340
have been considered by people who have

1391
01:18:09,339 --> 01:18:04,239
those encounters they're considered very

1392
01:18:12,759 --> 01:18:09,349
likeable even lovable so now these are

1393
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:12,769
their words not my words this is coming

1394
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:17,110
from the people who experience them so

1395
01:18:26,109 --> 01:18:22,030
anyway there are tall mantis beings and

1396
01:18:29,890 --> 01:18:26,119
I've heard a lot of people being afraid

1397
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:29,900
at first of the Mantis beings because

1398
01:18:33,859 --> 01:18:30,820
they're

1399
01:18:36,510 --> 01:18:33,869
really tall it might be eight feet tall

1400
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:36,520
might even be taller than that in some

1401
01:18:44,939 --> 01:18:41,760
cases and they look like a great big bug

1402
01:18:49,709 --> 01:18:44,949
Amanda a praying mantis short looking

1403
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:49,719
bug so I've had mixed reports on those

1404
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:54,610
two some before their regrets to those

1405
01:19:02,430 --> 01:18:58,449
experiences might have a glimpse of one

1406
01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:02,440
of the Mantis beings in their memory but

1407
01:19:09,089 --> 01:19:04,630
when we regress to one of those

1408
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:09,099
experiences so far at least those

1409
01:19:19,790 --> 01:19:14,280
methods beings tend to be very very

1410
01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:19,800
benevolent and caring even loving and

1411
01:19:32,399 --> 01:19:27,880
wise kindly and even in one case of the

1412
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:32,409
very tall white mantis being was very

1413
01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:36,420
playful with a four year old girl who

1414
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:39,880
had an encounter with my client her

1415
01:19:48,629 --> 01:19:44,530
grandmother and so that helped me to get

1416
01:19:51,959 --> 01:19:48,639
quite a different look on the Mantis

1417
01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:51,969
being said some of them you know are

1418
01:19:57,330 --> 01:19:54,790
really wonderful to have experiences

1419
01:20:02,490 --> 01:19:57,340
with according to the people who have

1420
01:20:06,209 --> 01:20:02,500
had those experiences so you know some

1421
01:20:09,260 --> 01:20:06,219
people will have an experience with so

1422
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:09,270
many different types of

1423
01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:11,710
extraterrestrials in different

1424
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:16,260
encounters from the little grey beings

1425
01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:20,290
and the taller gray type although they

1426
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:25,060
may be brown or tan and human looking

1427
01:20:33,629 --> 01:20:29,710
Nordic we call them beings and mantis

1428
01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:33,639
beings and reptilian beings and all

1429
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:37,320
kinds of other beings even aquatic

1430
01:20:46,620 --> 01:20:41,110
beings or luminous blue

1431
01:20:50,129 --> 01:20:46,630
being such as from our tourists and tall

1432
01:20:54,859 --> 01:20:50,139
white SATA beings and dolphin-like

1433
01:20:59,279 --> 01:20:54,869
beings so I'm just mentioning a few of

1434
01:21:03,180 --> 01:20:59,289
the many types so it's very difficult to

1435
01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:03,190
really generalize too much about these

1436
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:06,369
beings and I have people coming up to me

1437
01:21:12,419 --> 01:21:09,760
sometimes and saying well what are the

1438
01:21:15,629 --> 01:21:12,429
extraterrestrials like right right

1439
01:21:20,819 --> 01:21:15,639
that's my next question of course and so

1440
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:20,829
I have to say well it depends on which

1441
01:21:26,759 --> 01:21:23,440
type you're asking about because there

1442
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:26,769
are so many different types and they do

1443
01:21:30,779 --> 01:21:29,800
really seem to come here for different

1444
01:21:34,489 --> 01:21:30,789
reasons

1445
01:21:40,129 --> 01:21:34,499
as I said they have their own agendas

1446
01:21:44,549 --> 01:21:40,139
now some of these beings are very very

1447
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:44,559
caring about humanity and they have

1448
01:21:51,839 --> 01:21:47,530
shown that in quite a number of ways in

1449
01:21:56,370 --> 01:21:51,849
fact I've give whole 90-minute lectures

1450
01:22:01,080 --> 01:21:56,380
just on that aspect about the ones that

1451
01:22:05,939 --> 01:22:01,090
really show great compassion and caring

1452
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:05,949
for humanity as a whole and compassion

1453
01:22:13,979 --> 01:22:09,010
and caring for the individual people

1454
01:22:19,799 --> 01:22:13,989
they encounter and there are many cases

1455
01:22:23,759 --> 01:22:19,809
of extraterrestrials even rescuing

1456
01:22:25,649 --> 01:22:23,769
people people who've been lost or people

1457
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:25,659
who are in trouble I have specific

1458
01:22:33,319 --> 01:22:29,650
examples of which are given some of my

1459
01:22:39,060 --> 01:22:33,329
talks and and they're very concerned

1460
01:22:44,009 --> 01:22:39,070
many of them about planet Earth and what

1461
01:22:45,450 --> 01:22:44,019
we humans are doing to the earth ruining

1462
01:22:48,989 --> 01:22:45,460
it in many ways

1463
01:22:51,870 --> 01:22:48,999
bit by bit here and there and we know

1464
01:22:53,090 --> 01:22:51,880
all this - but the thing is that they're

1465
01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:53,100
very concerned

1466
01:23:00,080 --> 01:22:56,520
about this and they would like so much

1467
01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:00,090
to see us change some of our practices

1468
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:04,140
and be taking much better care of the

1469
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:07,410
earth rather than plundering the earth

1470
01:23:13,610 --> 01:23:10,650
and ruining the earth they're

1471
01:23:16,940 --> 01:23:13,620
particularly and they're very vocal

1472
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:16,950
about this of concerned about our

1473
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:21,900
nuclear capability and they know that we

1474
01:23:30,140 --> 01:23:26,880
could totally ruin all life on the earth

1475
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:30,150
if we start setting off nuclear weapons

1476
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:33,840
in fact we're already ruining a lot of

1477
01:23:39,710 --> 01:23:35,850
aspects of the earth with all the

1478
01:23:44,030 --> 01:23:39,720
testing that we've done of atomic bombs

1479
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:44,040
and nuclear bombs and nuclear weapons

1480
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:49,170
and they say that not only do they not

1481
01:23:54,260 --> 01:23:50,930
want to see earth

1482
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:54,270
totally ruined and humanity and all life

1483
01:23:59,240 --> 01:23:56,100
on Earth extinguished

1484
01:24:02,980 --> 01:23:59,250
which we could really do with our

1485
01:24:06,940 --> 01:24:02,990
nuclear capability but even beyond that

1486
01:24:12,350 --> 01:24:06,950
they say that if we start sending off

1487
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:12,360
nuclear equipment radiation would rise

1488
01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:16,530
not only throughout the earth and not

1489
01:24:22,460 --> 01:24:19,260
only throughout the solar system but

1490
01:24:26,780 --> 01:24:22,470
would even reach planets beyond our

1491
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:26,790
solar system so that's of course a very

1492
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:30,000
good reason for them wanting us to stop

1493
01:24:35,930 --> 01:24:33,120
doing anything with nuclear material

1494
01:24:40,820 --> 01:24:35,940
even nuclear power plants which of

1495
01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:40,830
course can leak as we know so so they're

1496
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:46,490
concerned for us and for themselves and

1497
01:24:53,870 --> 01:24:50,490
rightfully so oh I think so

1498
01:24:58,430 --> 01:24:53,880
with that caring about earth I think

1499
01:25:01,580 --> 01:24:58,440
that that brings them to earth a lot

1500
01:25:04,110 --> 01:25:01,590
many different types and that's why we

1501
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:04,120
see UFOs

1502
01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:08,320
because they really do come here so so

1503
01:25:14,820 --> 01:25:11,320
there are those more scientifically

1504
01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:14,830
oriented extraterrestrials who come and

1505
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:21,100
check out things and and even they turn

1506
01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:26,110
off our nuclear warheads short got all a

1507
01:25:31,650 --> 01:25:28,030
m-- and ready to go at the push of a

1508
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:31,660
button and there are several examples of

1509
01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:36,010
these nuclear missile silos where the

1510
01:25:43,190 --> 01:25:38,950
missiles in different parts of the world

1511
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:43,200
have been decommissioned by the

1512
01:25:50,460 --> 01:25:46,930
extraterrestrials they don't want those

1513
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:50,470
things going off anymore than we want

1514
01:25:56,910 --> 01:25:52,990
them to to go off no they want as they

1515
01:25:59,280 --> 01:25:56,920
want to hang out here too as well yeah I

1516
01:26:02,750 --> 01:25:59,290
think I think probably some of them do

1517
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:02,760
and so some of it's sort of for

1518
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:06,310
enlightened self-interest on their part

1519
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:09,690
but but a lot of it too is that they

1520
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:13,770
express some of them really caring for

1521
01:26:25,260 --> 01:26:19,560
Humanity you know way back in 1982 I

1522
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:25,270
came across the book called UFO contact

1523
01:26:31,650 --> 01:26:28,480
from the Pleiades this was the Billy

1524
01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:31,660
Meyer material and I found the book on

1525
01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:34,720
the coffee table of a friend and had a

1526
01:26:43,470 --> 01:26:37,260
few minutes to look at it and I was

1527
01:26:47,450 --> 01:26:43,480
amazed at these photographs of UFOs that

1528
01:26:50,610 --> 01:26:47,460
billy meier and switzerland took and

1529
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:50,620
also i was impressed with the writing in

1530
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:55,330
that book there were quotes from these

1531
01:27:02,870 --> 01:26:58,810
beings from the Pleiades and the

1532
01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:02,880
Pleiadians said that they consider us

1533
01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:07,480
humans as we would consider little

1534
01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:12,100
brothers so they knew that we needed

1535
01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:15,880
some help that we had some development

1536
01:27:20,010 --> 01:27:17,740
that we could do and

1537
01:27:25,050 --> 01:27:20,020
better directions and they were really

1538
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:25,060
very caring about us well that was

1539
01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:28,450
before I knew that extraterrestrials and

1540
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:32,680
UFOs were real but I was very impressed

1541
01:27:41,730 --> 01:27:38,050
with that and at that time I hoped that

1542
01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:41,740
that was true I didn't know yet that it

1543
01:27:48,450 --> 01:27:45,340
was true but I dearly hope so and I

1544
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,460
thought isn't that wonderful that

1545
01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:50,800
there's someone else in the universe

1546
01:27:59,820 --> 01:27:56,440
that is aware of us and cares about us

1547
01:28:03,330 --> 01:27:59,830
humans and they can actually come here

1548
01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:03,340
and they can be photographed or their

1549
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:05,350
crafts at least could be photographed

1550
01:28:12,510 --> 01:28:08,970
and Wow I hope that's true

1551
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:12,520
so as I've come through all these years

1552
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:15,520
of doing this work now I really trust

1553
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:18,730
that indeed it is true let's take a

1554
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:20,770
break right here Barbara our guest

1555
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:22,930
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01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:24,250
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[Music]

1662
01:34:18,490 --> 01:34:16,270
welcome back fade to black now I am your

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01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:18,500
host Jimmy Church tonight our guest is

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01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:20,570
barbara Lam you can follow me on twitter

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hashtag f2b and come and hang out on the

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sandbox of course we have the chat rooms

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open too as well and Barbara before we

1669
01:34:41,020 --> 01:34:38,510
get to hybrids and and and DNA which I'm

1670
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:41,030
going to spend the rest of the show on a

1671
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:42,800
couple of quick questions about

1672
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:46,310
regression why do some including

1673
01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:48,530
yourself because of what you just said

1674
01:34:54,210 --> 01:34:50,480
when you will regress why do some

1675
01:34:57,340 --> 01:34:54,220
remember and some don't

1676
01:35:00,280 --> 01:34:57,350
well do you mean why does some remember

1677
01:35:02,979 --> 01:35:00,290
the whole experience before they have a

1678
01:35:05,890 --> 01:35:02,989
regression there's that part of it well

1679
01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:05,900
there's that part it's it's a it's a

1680
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:08,480
general question because it's it's that

1681
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:10,130
aspect of it and then there's the

1682
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,370
regression therapy itself or some don't

1683
01:35:18,670 --> 01:35:15,920
remember the the the regression therapy

1684
01:35:22,030 --> 01:35:18,680
and some do and remember everything that

1685
01:35:23,860 --> 01:35:22,040
you know it's it's really strange how

1686
01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:23,870
how it all works

1687
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:27,230
so yes why did some remember and some

1688
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:31,250
don't well first of all most people do

1689
01:35:37,110 --> 01:35:34,130
not remember very much about the

1690
01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:37,120
regression I mean very much about the

1691
01:35:47,710 --> 01:35:43,120
encounter without having a regression

1692
01:35:50,740 --> 01:35:47,720
the beings come for a person and usually

1693
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:50,750
the person is aware of just the first

1694
01:35:58,900 --> 01:35:55,370
few several moments that there are

1695
01:36:01,840 --> 01:35:58,910
beings there or there's a bright light

1696
01:36:04,810 --> 01:36:01,850
coming into the room or little sparkles

1697
01:36:09,220 --> 01:36:04,820
of light or orbs of light flying around

1698
01:36:11,380 --> 01:36:09,230
and they might wake up in the middle of

1699
01:36:14,410 --> 01:36:11,390
the night and see that there are beings

1700
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:14,420
there in the room standing near the bed

1701
01:36:20,940 --> 01:36:18,560
and they might be aware as long as to

1702
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:20,950
realize that they can't move

1703
01:36:28,890 --> 01:36:24,480
and they can't call out that can usually

1704
01:36:31,290 --> 01:36:28,900
turn their eyes but not any other part

1705
01:36:35,490 --> 01:36:31,300
of their body and then they usually are

1706
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:35,500
made to be out of consciousness for the

1707
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:39,760
rest of the experience so that's without

1708
01:36:46,380 --> 01:36:42,490
regression this is just the actual

1709
01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:46,390
experience itself so the rest of the

1710
01:36:52,110 --> 01:36:48,190
experience is something they're not

1711
01:36:55,620 --> 01:36:52,120
consciously aware of except that after

1712
01:37:01,260 --> 01:36:55,630
such an encounter somebody might have a

1713
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:01,270
very quick flashback of some aspect of

1714
01:37:09,540 --> 01:37:05,770
that whole encounter but usually they

1715
01:37:13,530 --> 01:37:09,550
don't remember very much beyond that now

1716
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:13,540
when they do a regression what I have

1717
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:15,940
found with most people and it's been

1718
01:37:24,180 --> 01:37:21,250
about 3700 regressions I've done with

1719
01:37:27,390 --> 01:37:24,190
that almost 2,000 people because some of

1720
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:27,400
them have had many regressions and so

1721
01:37:35,570 --> 01:37:32,080
typically they will remember most of the

1722
01:37:39,060 --> 01:37:35,580
regression but there will be some

1723
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:39,070
details usually that they do not

1724
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:43,090
remember so that's why I think it's very

1725
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:47,170
important to record the session right I

1726
01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:50,890
used to do that with audio tapes but I

1727
01:37:57,230 --> 01:37:54,340
gave up on that when I was finding that

1728
01:38:00,200 --> 01:37:57,240
most people because we'd gone digital

1729
01:38:03,690 --> 01:38:00,210
that most people had given away their

1730
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:03,700
tape recorders and no longer had

1731
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:07,210
anything to play a tape on for a couple

1732
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:09,040
of years now two or three years I've

1733
01:38:14,460 --> 01:38:11,590
encouraged people to do their own

1734
01:38:18,150 --> 01:38:14,470
recording on their own cell phone and

1735
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:18,160
then they can listen to it again I think

1736
01:38:23,310 --> 01:38:20,800
it's helpful to for them to listen to

1737
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:23,320
the recording of the regression again

1738
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:26,320
sometime when they feel like it because

1739
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:30,480
there will be some details

1740
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:33,850
aspects of the encounter that they'll

1741
01:38:40,410 --> 01:38:37,360
hear for the first time through their

1742
01:38:43,110 --> 01:38:40,420
own recording in other words certain

1743
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:43,120
details they may have forgotten but they

1744
01:38:49,169 --> 01:38:46,570
do remember the main body of the

1745
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:49,179
experience at least that's what seems to

1746
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:51,280
happen to the people I do the

1747
01:38:56,250 --> 01:38:53,770
regressions with now what about I'm

1748
01:39:00,740 --> 01:38:56,260
gonna go dark or a little bit dark here

1749
01:39:06,810 --> 01:39:00,750
and that if there's an overwhelming

1750
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:06,820
amount of positive et contact that the

1751
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:11,040
some of that positive contact are

1752
01:39:16,890 --> 01:39:15,250
implanted positive memories to cover up

1753
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:16,900
something that may not have been so

1754
01:39:24,300 --> 01:39:20,560
positive well I know that there is that

1755
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:24,310
theory and if it seems to be something

1756
01:39:32,820 --> 01:39:30,850
that the person or I and doubt about we

1757
01:39:37,110 --> 01:39:32,830
can always do the regression again if

1758
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:37,120
the person is willing and see if it's

1759
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:40,239
exactly the same details the same

1760
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:43,600
memories that come up again or if

1761
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:46,480
something that seemed to be positive

1762
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:48,850
seems to be covering something more

1763
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:52,449
negative I know that that is a theory

1764
01:40:00,030 --> 01:39:57,040
that David Jacobs has I know David

1765
01:40:02,910 --> 01:40:00,040
Jacobs I'm very fond of him as a person

1766
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:02,920
we find very different results in

1767
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:07,210
certain aspects of our work but who who

1768
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:10,840
knows why that is but you know he he

1769
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:13,690
often feels that oh it couldn't really

1770
01:40:18,689 --> 01:40:15,460
be a positive experience

1771
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:18,699
it must be covering up something pretty

1772
01:40:26,580 --> 01:40:24,400
nasty mm-hmm I personally feeling more

1773
01:40:30,660 --> 01:40:26,590
acceptable about some of these

1774
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:30,670
encounters being very positive I went

1775
01:40:34,530 --> 01:40:33,010
through I'm not gonna spend any time on

1776
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:34,540
this at all I've talked about a way too

1777
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:39,040
much but I went through an experience of

1778
01:40:46,150 --> 01:40:41,600
something being in my room

1779
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:46,160
and this was around 1995 but what was

1780
01:40:51,370 --> 01:40:48,110
strange about that I didn't I didn't

1781
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:51,380
share the experience with anybody and as

1782
01:40:55,150 --> 01:40:54,650
I mean for years now I talk about it all

1783
01:40:57,970 --> 01:40:55,160
the time

1784
01:41:02,740 --> 01:40:57,980
but anyway I I didn't share the

1785
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:02,750
experience but what I did I knew I knew

1786
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:04,880
what had happened with me personally and

1787
01:41:14,670 --> 01:41:10,970
as I research these types of experiences

1788
01:41:18,910 --> 01:41:14,680
that I saw over and over again nearly

1789
01:41:20,860 --> 01:41:18,920
exactly what I had gone through and that

1790
01:41:23,980 --> 01:41:20,870
did two things to me Barbara that let me

1791
01:41:25,900 --> 01:41:23,990
know that I wasn't crazy but but it also

1792
01:41:29,260 --> 01:41:25,910
scared the crap out of me that it was

1793
01:41:31,300 --> 01:41:29,270
actually real right I was hoping that it

1794
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:31,310
wasn't and then there was the the

1795
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:33,770
strange little third thing that has been

1796
01:41:40,090 --> 01:41:37,250
hanging out there about should I be

1797
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:40,100
regressed should I go back and and find

1798
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:42,320
out what happened in that 15 minutes

1799
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:44,090
that I remember and you know what my

1800
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:49,360
answer is what no I don't want to know I

1801
01:41:54,850 --> 01:41:51,890
don't I don't want to know I don't wanna

1802
01:41:57,460 --> 01:41:54,860
I don't want to know

1803
01:42:01,600 --> 01:41:57,470
it took me years to deal with it on my

1804
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:01,610
own terms anyway right yeah I just don't

1805
01:42:07,210 --> 01:42:03,890
want to go there well you know I think

1806
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:07,220
that is very understandable because for

1807
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:10,850
one thing there's been a lot of news

1808
01:42:18,130 --> 01:42:14,800
about people having really frightful

1809
01:42:20,290 --> 01:42:18,140
experiences and of course you don't want

1810
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:20,300
to open yourself up to finding out

1811
01:42:25,210 --> 01:42:22,610
something like that in other words

1812
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:25,220
before you really look into it there's

1813
01:42:32,610 --> 01:42:28,970
no reassurance that you're going to be

1814
01:42:35,470 --> 01:42:32,620
okay with what you find or even pleased

1815
01:42:38,460 --> 01:42:35,480
with what you find that some people are

1816
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:38,470
I mean you're really taking a chance and

1817
01:42:45,070 --> 01:42:42,110
I think that's something that I can

1818
01:42:48,130 --> 01:42:45,080
perfectly well respect that you may not

1819
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:48,140
want to do that yeah and I don't want to

1820
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:50,030
stop anybody out there from going and

1821
01:42:55,390 --> 01:42:53,450
doing it don't listen to me this is just

1822
01:42:57,820 --> 01:42:55,400
my way of dealing with

1823
01:42:59,530 --> 01:42:57,830
you know and everybody everybody's got a

1824
01:43:01,000 --> 01:42:59,540
different way of looking at it and if

1825
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:01,010
you feel that is something that you want

1826
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:04,010
to do go and do it but with me

1827
01:43:14,620 --> 01:43:05,930
personally man you know what I just

1828
01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:14,630
don't want to know now which leads us

1829
01:43:20,970 --> 01:43:17,000
into I want to talk about hybrids and

1830
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:20,980
this aspect of things because there is

1831
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:25,130
there must be an agenda no matter who

1832
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:27,410
was visiting this planet they're not

1833
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:29,870
coming here to waste their time well

1834
01:43:34,270 --> 01:43:31,250
maybe they're coming here for a vacation

1835
01:43:37,390 --> 01:43:34,280
and they just want to hang out but they

1836
01:43:42,250 --> 01:43:37,400
are here for a purpose and we have seen

1837
01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:42,260
the changes in in homo sapien sapin

1838
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:46,900
sapien and it is such an obvious thing

1839
01:43:52,270 --> 01:43:49,730
where we are the only ones that are like

1840
01:43:54,610 --> 01:43:52,280
us on this planet that that's it there

1841
01:43:57,250 --> 01:43:54,620
isn't anything else like us but we

1842
01:43:59,230 --> 01:43:57,260
certainly seem to have just appeared

1843
01:44:02,440 --> 01:43:59,240
here on this planet two hundred thousand

1844
01:44:04,420 --> 01:44:02,450
years ago and without any evolution to

1845
01:44:09,190 --> 01:44:04,430
support that there is no missing link

1846
01:44:12,780 --> 01:44:09,200
and to that end is is that a possibility

1847
01:44:17,740 --> 01:44:12,790
where we were interfered with or maybe

1848
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:17,750
created or modified well it certainly is

1849
01:44:22,260 --> 01:44:20,480
a possibility and I think nowadays we're

1850
01:44:25,180 --> 01:44:22,270
hearing more and more about that

1851
01:44:28,780 --> 01:44:25,190
possibility of course there's Zecharia

1852
01:44:32,430 --> 01:44:28,790
Sitchin's work which of course is very

1853
01:44:35,050 --> 01:44:32,440
very interesting about the Anunnaki

1854
01:44:36,180 --> 01:44:35,060
extraterrestrials coming from planet

1855
01:44:41,500 --> 01:44:36,190
Nibiru

1856
01:44:45,460 --> 01:44:41,510
way back a long time ago and taking the

1857
01:44:49,540 --> 01:44:45,470
very primitive life maybe we could even

1858
01:44:53,350 --> 01:44:49,550
call it pre human development of

1859
01:44:58,150 --> 01:44:53,360
hominids and doing genetic engineering

1860
01:45:00,900 --> 01:44:58,160
with them and creating the early human

1861
01:45:05,620 --> 01:45:00,910
beings that would be the missing link

1862
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:05,630
aspect that you mentioned and then over

1863
01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:08,330
a period of time probably century

1864
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:12,880
guess they did more genetic tweaking

1865
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:16,970
until we became Homo sapiens sapiens as

1866
01:45:26,590 --> 01:45:22,610
we know us nowadays so I think that that

1867
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:26,600
is a very likely possibility I don't

1868
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:30,320
think there's been any proof of that but

1869
01:45:37,410 --> 01:45:33,920
it's a very compelling theory and it

1870
01:45:41,140 --> 01:45:37,420
could very well be true in in my opinion

1871
01:45:44,410 --> 01:45:41,150
and it could be true also that over a

1872
01:45:49,540 --> 01:45:44,420
period of time Homo sapiens sapiens has

1873
01:45:53,290 --> 01:45:49,550
been genetically modified a bit here and

1874
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:53,300
there until here we are the way that we

1875
01:46:01,540 --> 01:45:57,410
are now in the 21st century so it could

1876
01:46:05,580 --> 01:46:01,550
be again I want to underline could it's

1877
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:05,590
the possibility we could all as humans

1878
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be hybrids in that sense that they added

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some of their genetics their DNA out of

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the more primitive form that we were a

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long time ago and now we are the humans

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which we know and are so that's a very

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01:46:35,140 --> 01:46:31,180
interesting theory and then there's

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something more current happening and has

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01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:39,100
been happening for quite a while two

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categories of hybrids which I've been

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01:46:49,410 --> 01:46:45,770
paying quite a bit of attention to for

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01:46:54,130 --> 01:46:49,420
some years now so the first category of

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01:46:58,840 --> 01:46:54,140
hybrids is that there are hybrids living

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on the ships and rather than living on

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earth and these are hybrids created by

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the mixture of an extraterrestrial and a

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01:47:14,170 --> 01:47:11,750
human so probably many of your listeners

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01:47:17,050 --> 01:47:14,180
are aware that there have been many

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women who have had eggs taken from their

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ovaries

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abductions and then those eggs have been

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put into a little petri dish type of

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equipment on board the ship and a little

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01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:37,410
fetus an embryo I should say has been

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created with a mixture of the woman's

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eggs and the extraterrestrial genetic

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01:47:52,850 --> 01:47:48,510
and reproductive material so that little

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01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:52,860
embryo is then well is hybrid of course

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and that little embryo is implanted

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again into the human mother in another

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abduction and she carries that embryo

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for one to three months and then she is

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01:48:16,060 --> 01:48:11,370
taken again and that little embryo is

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:16,070
removed from her and put into a

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gestation tank onboard the spacecraft

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and that little embryo grows into a

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fetus and then into what looks more like

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a baby and at a certain time when the

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extraterrestrials tending to this tank

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of fluid with the little life inside it

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when they determine that the life is

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mature enough to be born it is removed

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from the tank and wrapped up in

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swaddling clothes and put in kind of an

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01:49:03,680 --> 01:48:58,620
incubator like shelf and then raised as

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a hybrid baby and a hybrid child and if

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that new life lives long enough it

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becomes a hybrid teenager and even a

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01:49:18,380 --> 01:49:13,710
hybrid adult but those hybrids which are

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01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:18,390
half extraterrestrial and half human

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they continue to live their life on the

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spaceship with the other

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extraterrestrials usually a mixture of

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extraterrestrial types maybe they

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live on another planet in some cases

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rather than on the ship but they never

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01:49:48,970 --> 01:49:43,320
do live here on earth because they're

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not proportionately enough human to

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survive here nor would they really pass

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01:50:00,650 --> 01:49:57,180
here among human civilization because

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01:50:03,470 --> 01:50:00,660
they would look to different now those

1938
01:50:09,410 --> 01:50:03,480
hybrid children living on the ships

1939
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:09,420
often get visited by the mother who had

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:13,290
contributed the eggs or in some cases

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the human father from whom sperm had

1942
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been removed in order to make a hybrid

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01:50:29,780 --> 01:50:26,760
baby and so the mother or the father or

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01:50:34,670 --> 01:50:29,790
sometimes both will be taken to view the

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:34,680
baby and hold the baby and it's

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01:50:40,010 --> 01:50:37,050
explained to them that it's important

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01:50:45,020 --> 01:50:40,020
for the mother especially to hold the

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01:50:48,530 --> 01:50:45,030
hybrid baby and nurture and cuddle the

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01:50:52,970 --> 01:50:48,540
baby because since the hybrid is half

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01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:52,980
human they have learned that that little

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01:51:02,180 --> 01:50:57,570
hybrid baby needs absolutely needs that

1952
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:02,190
affection from the mother and the same

1953
01:51:09,260 --> 01:51:05,070
is true of the father but not quite to

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01:51:13,310 --> 01:51:09,270
the extent as with the mother okay so

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01:51:15,890 --> 01:51:13,320
that kind of hybrid is the first type

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01:51:21,220 --> 01:51:15,900
that I am talking about they live their

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01:51:26,450 --> 01:51:21,230
lives elsewhere and then those hybrids

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01:51:31,030 --> 01:51:26,460
when old enough like age 12 or 13 or so

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01:51:36,850 --> 01:51:31,040
when they become sexually mature enough

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01:51:40,820 --> 01:51:36,860
they combine with another human an

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01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:40,830
abducted human so that offspring of

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01:51:49,050 --> 01:51:45,010
course is two-thirds human and one-third

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01:51:53,780 --> 01:51:49,060
terrestrial and when that offspring of

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01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:53,790
that combination is mature enough that

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01:52:01,770 --> 01:51:57,450
posturing will combine with yet another

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01:52:07,170 --> 01:52:01,780
human so pretty soon you get more and

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01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:07,180
more human nests in proportion and so it

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01:52:14,700 --> 01:52:10,450
is thought that perhaps after enough

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:14,710
generations those hybrids might live on

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01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:15,730
earth

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01:52:24,450 --> 01:52:19,510
I don't know personally of any hybrids

1972
01:52:26,730 --> 01:52:24,460
of that type that live on earth maybe

1973
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:26,740
maybe there are some maybe there aren't

1974
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:29,410
but they're not within my scope of

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01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:30,730
knowing about it

1976
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:35,310
but I do know about a whole different

1977
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:38,410
group of hybrids and these are the

1978
01:52:44,340 --> 01:52:41,050
hybrids that I've written about in my

1979
01:52:48,650 --> 01:52:44,350
book called meet the hybrids co-authored

1980
01:52:52,050 --> 01:52:48,660
with McGill Mendonca a wonderful man in

1981
01:52:55,130 --> 01:52:52,060
England who's been very interested in

1982
01:53:02,420 --> 01:52:55,140
all of this said a very good writer so

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01:53:05,250 --> 01:53:02,430
these hybrids ET human hybrids these

1984
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:05,260
hybrids are made in somewhat of a

1985
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:09,850
different way that they were all born

1986
01:53:18,710 --> 01:53:14,170
here on earth from a human mother and

1987
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:18,720
the human father but either before

1988
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:23,290
conception or during the life in the

1989
01:53:28,410 --> 01:53:24,480
mother's womb

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01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:28,420
they were hybridized in other words in a

1991
01:53:36,110 --> 01:53:31,690
couple of cases the extraterrestrials

1992
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:36,120
took eggs from the human mother and

1993
01:53:44,580 --> 01:53:39,730
sperm from the human father and combined

1994
01:53:47,690 --> 01:53:44,590
that with the extraterrestrial genetics

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01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:47,700
of usually more than one type of

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01:53:54,420 --> 01:53:50,970
extraterrestrial to might even be a few

1997
01:53:57,229 --> 01:53:54,430
different types all working together so

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01:54:00,830 --> 01:53:57,239
they create a little embryo eat

1999
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:00,840
and human and then implant that in the

2000
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:04,170
mother and leave that embryo in the

2001
01:54:13,689 --> 01:54:07,440
mother so that that embryo develops into

2002
01:54:17,660 --> 01:54:13,699
a fetus and into a regular baby already

2003
01:54:22,299 --> 01:54:17,670
hybridized and gets born here on earth

2004
01:54:26,209 --> 01:54:22,309
the way that we all do now another

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01:54:29,989 --> 01:54:26,219
method of hybridization with this type

2006
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:29,999
of being is that the mother is already

2007
01:54:38,750 --> 01:54:33,840
pregnant with this firm from the father

2008
01:54:42,379 --> 01:54:38,760
human and then during the gestation

2009
01:54:45,859 --> 01:54:42,389
period during the pregnancy of the

2010
01:54:50,350 --> 01:54:45,869
mother the mother is taken on the ship

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01:54:53,930 --> 01:54:50,360
and is ejected through the wall of the

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01:54:56,589 --> 01:54:53,940
uterus the wall of the stomach and the

2013
01:55:00,379 --> 01:54:56,599
uterus and into the the fetus inside

2014
01:55:04,279 --> 01:55:00,389
that little fetus is injected with the

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01:55:08,089 --> 01:55:04,289
extra-terrestrial genetics and becomes

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01:55:13,299 --> 01:55:08,099
hybridized at that point so that seems

2017
01:55:18,020 --> 01:55:13,309
to be a very common way a fetus becoming

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01:55:21,859 --> 01:55:18,030
hybridized one of the women in our study

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01:55:27,620 --> 01:55:21,869
in beats the hybrids did not become

2020
01:55:30,830 --> 01:55:27,630
hybridized until she was aged 6 hmm and

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01:55:34,459 --> 01:55:30,840
she was hybridized by being taken by the

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01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:34,469
beings and injected right directly into

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01:55:41,689 --> 01:55:38,239
her body injected with the

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01:55:45,250 --> 01:55:41,699
extraterrestrial genetics of about 5

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different species already mixed together

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01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:49,949
so she became a hybrid but these hybrids

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01:56:00,439 --> 01:55:54,530
we actually have come to call

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01:56:04,150 --> 01:56:00,449
extraterrestrial ambassadors on earth

2029
01:56:09,340 --> 01:56:04,160
because they are here for really

2030
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:09,350
benevolent reasons from very benevolent

2031
01:56:16,330 --> 01:56:12,239
extraterrestrial species so they are

2032
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:16,340
here basically to upgrade the

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01:56:26,540 --> 01:56:21,330
consciousness of humanity and help to

2034
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:26,550
bring higher error better frequencies to

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01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:30,570
the earth so these people here are for a

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01:56:40,130 --> 01:56:34,110
life of service and they are doing

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01:56:44,350 --> 01:56:40,140
really wonderful things teaching having

2038
01:56:48,830 --> 01:56:44,360
workshops teaching classes doing writing

2039
01:56:54,970 --> 01:56:48,840
teaching psychic skills teaching healing

2040
01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:54,980
skills doing it telepathic talking a

2041
01:57:06,130 --> 01:57:01,520
whole range of psychic skills and really

2042
01:57:09,950 --> 01:57:06,140
inspiring there are human students and

2043
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:09,960
because they look completely human and

2044
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:13,170
as I said they were born from a human

2045
01:57:20,630 --> 01:57:15,650
mother and father right here on earth

2046
01:57:23,570 --> 01:57:20,640
they are very accepted by human beings I

2047
01:57:27,410 --> 01:57:23,580
think it's a brilliant thing really

2048
01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:27,420
because these benevolent beings who have

2049
01:57:35,660 --> 01:57:30,030
contributed their genetics to these

2050
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people they would love to come and help

2051
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to inspire humans and raise our

2052
01:57:44,750 --> 01:57:41,310
consciousness but they would not be

2053
01:57:49,130 --> 01:57:44,760
accepted here nor would they be able to

2054
01:57:51,890 --> 01:57:49,140
withstand our viruses and bacteria so

2055
01:57:55,939 --> 01:57:51,900
they can't come and do this work

2056
01:57:59,680 --> 01:57:55,949
themselves but they can create these

2057
01:58:03,260 --> 01:57:59,690
hybrids who will do this work and are

2058
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:03,270
doing this work that the beings would

2059
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:05,850
like to see done we need to take a break

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01:58:10,340 --> 01:58:07,920
right here that is fascinating we're

2061
01:58:12,020 --> 01:58:10,350
gonna finish this right here this

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thought when we come back after this

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short break our guest tonight is barbara

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Lam

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all right welcome back

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fade to black I am your host Amy Church

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how you doing tonight our guest is

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barber lamb fascinating conversation can

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follow me on twitter i j turks radio and

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you can also post any questions that you

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have for barbara over at hashtag f2b

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q on twitter and and i've been reading

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your questions tonight throughout the

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broadcast yeah Barbara you thought that

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it was just me and my bright mind it's

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our audience - that's jumping in tonight

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with some of these wonderful questions

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okay so now let's get back to our hybrid

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and DNA questions conversation yes

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why why do it if you are staying on the

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ships or going somewhere else what what

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02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:19,600
information have you gotten on that what

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02:04:23,490 --> 02:04:21,850
do you mean by wide why the hybrid

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02:04:27,330 --> 02:04:23,500
program if you're not going to come down

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here and hang out on planet earth oh I

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see well I think that this is just a

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02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:32,350
guess on my partner but I think that

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various extraterrestrial species have

2201
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been experimenting now to see what they

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02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:44,050
can create and what those beings would

2203
02:04:53,300 --> 02:04:48,400
be like anyway the many of the hybrids

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02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:53,310
are seen in by experiencers they're seen

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02:05:01,520 --> 02:04:56,890
working together with different species

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02:05:05,450 --> 02:05:01,530
of extraterrestrials on the ships so

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02:05:09,150 --> 02:05:05,460
they seem to have useful purposes

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02:05:12,180 --> 02:05:09,160
they're part of the work force on the

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spaceships even though they're not

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coming here to do work and you see it's

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02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:21,880
just some of the many many

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02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:24,670
extraterrestrial species that have

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02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:26,650
created the hybrids who

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can live here and work here on earth and

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02:05:37,950 --> 02:05:34,180
do the work on earth that those beings

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02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:37,960
would like to done here the other ones

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02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:39,940
the ones that get to stay on the ships

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02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:42,850
because they're not human enough

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02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:46,090
they are probably quite useful they

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02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:48,880
would be intelligent because they're

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02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:51,840
part human and part extraterrestrial

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02:05:59,970 --> 02:05:56,050
right so they might be I would assume

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02:06:03,360 --> 02:05:59,980
probably are much more intelligent even

2224
02:06:07,740 --> 02:06:03,370
than we humans are so they're probably

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02:06:10,770 --> 02:06:07,750
quite useful to the extraterrestrial

2226
02:06:13,140 --> 02:06:10,780
beings and there's there's the other

2227
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:13,150
theory out there love to hear your

2228
02:06:18,330 --> 02:06:15,130
comment on this that they're just

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02:06:20,610 --> 02:06:18,340
prepping us for an ultimate take over

2230
02:06:24,140 --> 02:06:20,620
the prepping the planet they're getting

2231
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:24,150
the atmosphere and and other things

2232
02:06:30,750 --> 02:06:27,850
better situated for them and of course

2233
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:30,760
us in general and eventually there won't

2234
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:31,510
be anymore

2235
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:35,650
us it'll be just them well I've heard

2236
02:06:41,070 --> 02:06:39,130
those theories definitely and I do not

2237
02:06:45,660 --> 02:06:41,080
know about that

2238
02:06:48,210 --> 02:06:45,670
I can't validate that in any way I just

2239
02:06:51,380 --> 02:06:48,220
have not come across that in my

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particular practice and I try to

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02:06:58,320 --> 02:06:54,610
restrict the talking about all of these

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02:07:01,170 --> 02:06:58,330
matters to what I have individually

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02:07:04,230 --> 02:07:01,180
learned through doing this work rather

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02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:04,240
than taking on somebody else to series

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02:07:13,860 --> 02:07:09,850
right right and the the hybrid program I

2246
02:07:17,450 --> 02:07:13,870
have heard so many stories and reports

2247
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:17,460
over the years about hybrid sightings

2248
02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:20,320
that even at conferences right well

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02:07:25,710 --> 02:07:22,270
there'll be somebody says a family in

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the back you know that that is just a

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02:07:31,740 --> 02:07:27,580
little bit different from the rest of us

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02:07:33,290 --> 02:07:31,750
not hanging out not intermingling just

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02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:33,300
there at the conference and then

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02:07:38,540 --> 02:07:36,940
disappears or or sightings on the street

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and so forth and

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and now and I also want to get into

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black-eyed children-- too as well but

2258
02:07:46,490 --> 02:07:44,340
but what about that side of it the the

2259
02:07:53,540 --> 02:07:46,500
hybrid sightings will we know one if we

2260
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:53,550
saw one well we saw one that I would not

2261
02:07:59,300 --> 02:07:56,730
consider the kind of hybrid that I've

2262
02:08:01,820 --> 02:07:59,310
been researching knowing and writing

2263
02:08:06,170 --> 02:08:01,830
about the ones who were born here on

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02:08:08,780 --> 02:08:06,180
earth but in a coffee shop a few years

2265
02:08:11,870 --> 02:08:08,790
ago a friend and I were sitting and

2266
02:08:16,310 --> 02:08:11,880
having coffee and there was a woman who

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02:08:24,530 --> 02:08:16,320
came in and walked right past us and we

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02:08:28,970 --> 02:08:24,540
both had a shudder a striking physical

2269
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:28,980
reaction to just seeing this woman and

2270
02:08:36,290 --> 02:08:31,850
we both looked at each other and said

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hybrid she's got to be a hybrid and

2272
02:08:42,410 --> 02:08:38,670
there was something really yeah about

2273
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:42,420
the energy the vibrations of that person

2274
02:08:50,930 --> 02:08:46,800
that were so different than any other

2275
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:50,940
person we had ever been close to and she

2276
02:08:58,820 --> 02:08:53,730
just walked past us I was absolutely

2277
02:09:02,030 --> 02:08:58,830
stunned and I wanted so much to get up

2278
02:09:04,610 --> 02:09:02,040
out of my chair and follow her into the

2279
02:09:10,070 --> 02:09:04,620
rest of the coffee shop and talk to her

2280
02:09:14,750 --> 02:09:10,080
I couldn't I just couldn't do it I felt

2281
02:09:17,630 --> 02:09:14,760
like I was stuck to the seat and then a

2282
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:17,640
little while later she came right near

2283
02:09:24,500 --> 02:09:21,840
our table to one of those little shelves

2284
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:24,510
where you can put cinnamon or sugar or

2285
02:09:30,410 --> 02:09:26,730
chocolate sprinkles or whatever in your

2286
02:09:34,220 --> 02:09:30,420
coffee and so she was about three feet

2287
02:09:36,980 --> 02:09:34,230
away from us with her back to us she was

2288
02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:36,990
busy doing something with her coffee and

2289
02:09:45,020 --> 02:09:41,760
again I wanted so much to get up and go

2290
02:09:48,530 --> 02:09:45,030
to that little counter and look at her

2291
02:09:49,439 --> 02:09:48,540
and talk to her and I didn't know what I

2292
02:09:54,810 --> 02:09:49,449
would say

2293
02:09:57,870 --> 02:09:54,820
but again I just couldn't get up and do

2294
02:10:02,189 --> 02:09:57,880
it and my friend and I both felt that

2295
02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:02,199
maybe this woman had somehow been able

2296
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:05,679
to affect us that I wouldn't be able to

2297
02:10:12,479 --> 02:10:09,010
get up I mean she probably didn't want

2298
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:12,489
to be approached and and spoken with it

2299
02:10:19,620 --> 02:10:15,730
was really I still remember that

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02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:19,630
experience very vividly I mean how odd

2301
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:23,890
that was so and I will never know about

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02:10:28,860 --> 02:10:26,770
her I never saw her again and I will

2303
02:10:32,130 --> 02:10:28,870
never know where she really was a hybrid

2304
02:10:35,010 --> 02:10:32,140
but but there was something so so

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02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:35,020
incredibly different about that person

2306
02:10:41,370 --> 02:10:39,610
yes she knew that you knew I think so I

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02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:41,380
really do think so

2308
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:44,530
now whether she stayed here on earth for

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02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:48,250
a long time or not I just really don't

2310
02:10:55,250 --> 02:10:52,960
know but I would suspect that she might

2311
02:10:58,939 --> 02:10:55,260
not have stayed here very long because

2312
02:11:03,630 --> 02:10:58,949
her whole demeanor her look her

2313
02:11:06,959 --> 02:11:03,640
frequencies was just so different and

2314
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:06,969
she probably affected other people very

2315
02:11:14,479 --> 02:11:11,410
oddly like she she affected us too but

2316
02:11:17,370 --> 02:11:14,489
yes you do hear about this at one of the

2317
02:11:18,979 --> 02:11:17,380
MUFON meetings in Orange County

2318
02:11:24,090 --> 02:11:18,989
California

2319
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:24,100
my co-author of alien experiences book

2320
02:11:32,669 --> 02:11:29,290
Nadine knowledge she sat in the back row

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02:11:34,430 --> 02:11:32,679
and in the row right in front of her but

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02:11:39,260 --> 02:11:34,440
a little bit to the side

2323
02:11:43,380 --> 02:11:39,270
she watched two young men in black

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02:11:47,300 --> 02:11:43,390
sweatshirts with hoodies just sitting

2325
02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:47,310
there through the whole lecture not

2326
02:11:52,140 --> 02:11:50,140
moving at all

2327
02:11:55,020 --> 02:11:52,150
I mean usually if you're sitting there

2328
02:11:57,180 --> 02:11:55,030
you know your head moves a little bit

2329
02:11:59,160 --> 02:11:57,190
every once in a while or you're you

2330
02:12:00,819 --> 02:11:59,170
loosen your shoulders for you shift your

2331
02:12:03,580 --> 02:12:00,829
position or or

2332
02:12:05,649 --> 02:12:03,590
you move her hands or something when

2333
02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:05,659
you're listening to a lecture but these

2334
02:12:11,819 --> 02:12:09,650
two set they're like statues and she

2335
02:12:15,609 --> 02:12:11,829
kept looking at them and thinking wow

2336
02:12:19,209 --> 02:12:15,619
they are really different and when of

2337
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:19,219
the lecture was over she wanted to go

2338
02:12:24,910 --> 02:12:21,770
and talk to them but they immediately

2339
02:12:26,799 --> 02:12:24,920
faced the other direction and went out

2340
02:12:31,299 --> 02:12:26,809
the door of the meeting room to the

2341
02:12:31,930 --> 02:12:31,309
outside and never showed up again but

2342
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:31,940
Wow

2343
02:12:37,359 --> 02:12:34,730
she said so she never really got a good

2344
02:12:40,990 --> 02:12:37,369
look at their faces but they just seemed

2345
02:12:44,350 --> 02:12:41,000
so odd and the feeling from them the

2346
02:12:47,410 --> 02:12:44,360
vibration from them was really different

2347
02:12:54,060 --> 02:12:47,420
she said now you've been doing this for

2348
02:12:58,060 --> 02:12:54,070
a very very long time and here we are I

2349
02:13:02,589 --> 02:12:58,070
would say this is the most exciting time

2350
02:13:06,129 --> 02:13:02,599
for you follow Jean the community ever

2351
02:13:10,209 --> 02:13:06,139
ever we're in this crazy Information Age

2352
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:10,219
we've got the the New York Times and

2353
02:13:16,510 --> 02:13:12,800
what happened last December December

2354
02:13:19,899 --> 02:13:16,520
16th in 2017 it was like the days of

2355
02:13:23,470 --> 02:13:19,909
disclosure right here we are it's it's

2356
02:13:26,169 --> 02:13:23,480
finally starting to happen what did you

2357
02:13:28,479 --> 02:13:26,179
feel and and what do you how do you feel

2358
02:13:30,359 --> 02:13:28,489
now what did you feel then did you think

2359
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:30,369
that we were on the brink of something

2360
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:33,650
busting open now we're now we move down

2361
02:13:40,140 --> 02:13:37,250
to 2019 right and we floated right

2362
02:13:44,859 --> 02:13:40,150
through 2018 and we all thought that

2363
02:13:47,169 --> 02:13:44,869
2018 was our year yes we did I think we

2364
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:47,179
really got our hopes up those of us who

2365
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:49,250
would like to see this openly

2366
02:13:56,339 --> 02:13:52,159
acknowledged you know there was that

2367
02:14:00,100 --> 02:13:56,349
little foray to the Stars Academy

2368
02:14:02,109 --> 02:14:00,110
introduced information about this and

2369
02:14:05,379 --> 02:14:02,119
though there were some really high

2370
02:14:07,140 --> 02:14:05,389
ranking government people who had just

2371
02:14:10,140 --> 02:14:07,150
retired from the government who were

2372
02:14:13,810 --> 02:14:10,150
involved are still involved I'm sure

2373
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:13,820
with that to the Stars Academy

2374
02:14:21,340 --> 02:14:18,290
so they did an opening for a shall we

2375
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:21,350
say of giving out information about UFOs

2376
02:14:29,260 --> 02:14:25,570
and then seemed to pull back now just

2377
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:29,270
recently from some people I know who

2378
02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:32,810
know a couple of those to the Stars

2379
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:36,320
Academy people they have said that there

2380
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:42,400
is very soon now in nineteen or to 2019

2381
02:14:51,460 --> 02:14:46,730
are going to be releasing some further

2382
02:14:54,370 --> 02:14:51,470
information so we will see but you know

2383
02:14:56,740 --> 02:14:54,380
when people have said to me when are we

2384
02:15:00,820 --> 02:14:56,750
going to have government disclosure and

2385
02:15:03,970 --> 02:15:00,830
that's asked of me many many times and

2386
02:15:07,690 --> 02:15:03,980
of course I don't know if we'll ever

2387
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:07,700
have official government disclosure but

2388
02:15:15,430 --> 02:15:12,890
I always say we are the disclosure so

2389
02:15:19,660 --> 02:15:15,440
that right now this very moment Jimmy

2390
02:15:21,940 --> 02:15:19,670
you and I and all of your listeners are

2391
02:15:25,690 --> 02:15:21,950
talking about this and thinking about

2392
02:15:29,820 --> 02:15:25,700
this that and everything that we say and

2393
02:15:33,700 --> 02:15:29,830
there are many others giving talks about

2394
02:15:38,770 --> 02:15:33,710
extraterrestrials and UFOs all of this

2395
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:38,780
is part of the disclosure informally in

2396
02:15:44,830 --> 02:15:41,360
other words more and more information

2397
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:44,840
bit by bit is coming out look at the

2398
02:15:54,540 --> 02:15:49,450
YouTube channels and Gaia channels and

2399
02:16:00,280 --> 02:15:54,550
so much information on the Internet and

2400
02:16:03,340 --> 02:16:00,290
DVDs movies to some extent books tons of

2401
02:16:07,780 --> 02:16:03,350
books out there about this whole

2402
02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:07,790
phenomenon so in a way we may not need

2403
02:16:13,620 --> 02:16:10,130
to have any government making it

2404
02:16:16,060 --> 02:16:13,630
official disclosure because fortunately

2405
02:16:19,260 --> 02:16:16,070
people are able to get a lot of

2406
02:16:23,439 --> 02:16:19,270
information about this if they wish to

2407
02:16:26,140 --> 02:16:23,449
are we close what do you think

2408
02:16:29,290 --> 02:16:26,150
close to disclosure yeah are we get it

2409
02:16:33,730 --> 02:16:29,300
are we getting there Barbara I think oh

2410
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:33,740
I do think bit by bit we are and just

2411
02:16:42,610 --> 02:16:38,000
whether it comes in the form of official

2412
02:16:45,370 --> 02:16:42,620
government announcements or not the

2413
02:16:49,259 --> 02:16:45,380
information the knowledge about this is

2414
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:49,269
spreading a lot spreading like wildfire

2415
02:16:59,259 --> 02:16:52,969
all over the earth just with the books

2416
02:17:03,459 --> 02:16:59,269
that I've been fortunate to write anyway

2417
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:03,469
the book called meet the hybrids that is

2418
02:17:11,620 --> 02:17:06,559
being translated and published now in

2419
02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:11,630
France and in Japan without our seeking

2420
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:14,330
without our looking for that people are

2421
02:17:20,320 --> 02:17:16,719
in other countries picking it up and

2422
02:17:22,780 --> 02:17:20,330
warning their populace know about it as

2423
02:17:26,500 --> 02:17:22,790
well so I think that the information

2424
02:17:30,700 --> 02:17:26,510
about UFOs and extraterrestrials is

2425
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:30,710
really increasing probably all over the

2426
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:35,410
world and for sure people have been

2427
02:17:40,629 --> 02:17:38,719
experiencing extraterrestrial encounters

2428
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:40,639
all over the world

2429
02:17:48,610 --> 02:17:44,410
and we know that there are UFO sightings

2430
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:48,620
all over the world so I think that all

2431
02:17:54,580 --> 02:17:51,010
of this is going to be continuing and

2432
02:17:57,250 --> 02:17:54,590
whether the government's any of them

2433
02:17:59,950 --> 02:17:57,260
ever make an official disclosure or not

2434
02:18:03,790 --> 02:17:59,960
I think more and more people are going

2435
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:03,800
to be aware of that as they say we are

2436
02:18:12,490 --> 02:18:07,760
not alone in the universe when you've

2437
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:12,500
done 2,600 regressions I can imagine

2438
02:18:19,750 --> 02:18:16,010
that there is one thing that you hear

2439
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:19,760
over and over again from clients of

2440
02:18:26,110 --> 02:18:23,570
yours patients of yours that are not in

2441
02:18:28,419 --> 02:18:26,120
communication with each other and you

2442
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:28,429
see this little kernel this little

2443
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:32,330
commonality between them all can you

2444
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:33,490
share that with us

2445
02:18:37,209 --> 02:18:35,530
well I think the most obvious

2446
02:18:42,759 --> 02:18:37,219
commonality

2447
02:18:47,379 --> 02:18:42,769
that the beings let the people having

2448
02:18:50,860 --> 02:18:47,389
these encounters be aware of very little

2449
02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:50,870
of the whole encounter we're consciously

2450
02:18:56,639 --> 02:18:54,290
of it now one of the reasons that has

2451
02:18:59,940 --> 02:18:56,649
been mentioned by some of the

2452
02:19:03,030 --> 02:18:59,950
extraterrestrials to my clients and also

2453
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:03,040
from the channeling of that

2454
02:19:10,049 --> 02:19:06,170
extraterrestrial I used to talk to many

2455
02:19:12,969 --> 02:19:10,059
many times was that the

2456
02:19:19,860 --> 02:19:12,979
extraterrestrials know that we humans

2457
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:19,870
can be very reactive very volatile very

2458
02:19:27,179 --> 02:19:24,080
frightened and we can really flail out

2459
02:19:31,269 --> 02:19:27,189
you know we have the fiver flight

2460
02:19:34,719 --> 02:19:31,279
impulse very strongly in us and an

2461
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:34,729
example of this is that one of clients

2462
02:19:42,190 --> 02:19:38,410
who had probably done 30 regressions

2463
02:19:45,009 --> 02:19:42,200
over a period of a few years she got to

2464
02:19:48,429 --> 02:19:45,019
the point where she really wanted to

2465
02:19:52,620 --> 02:19:48,439
have an encounter where she would be

2466
02:19:57,760 --> 02:19:52,630
conscious and awake for the whole

2467
02:20:01,750 --> 02:19:57,770
experience and she really meant that and

2468
02:20:05,370 --> 02:20:01,760
I said well if you really want that you

2469
02:20:08,679 --> 02:20:05,380
can ask for that you can say out loud

2470
02:20:09,880 --> 02:20:08,689
even if the beings don't seem to be

2471
02:20:12,729 --> 02:20:09,890
right there with you

2472
02:20:15,790 --> 02:20:12,739
as you're saying it you could say please

2473
02:20:20,650 --> 02:20:15,800
take me and let me be consciously aware

2474
02:20:23,979 --> 02:20:20,660
of every moment of the experience from

2475
02:20:27,490 --> 02:20:23,989
what happened so shortly after that lo

2476
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:27,500
and behold a group of beings came again

2477
02:20:33,820 --> 02:20:30,800
shoot in bed at night and they levitated

2478
02:20:36,639 --> 02:20:33,830
her up off the bed she's consciously

2479
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:36,649
aware of that and she happened to sort

2480
02:20:42,429 --> 02:20:39,920
of look down at the bed and realize she

2481
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:42,439
was about six feet above the bed and

2482
02:20:50,139 --> 02:20:46,970
even though she had wanted sincerely to

2483
02:20:51,220 --> 02:20:50,149
be awake and aware conscious of the

2484
02:20:54,190 --> 02:20:51,230
whole experience

2485
02:20:58,810 --> 02:20:54,200
seeing herself up off the bed like that

2486
02:21:03,520 --> 02:20:58,820
with beings around her she just began to

2487
02:21:05,740 --> 02:21:03,530
freak out she began to flail about her

2488
02:21:10,180 --> 02:21:05,750
arms and legs were kicking out and so

2489
02:21:15,250 --> 02:21:10,190
forth and immediately these four beings

2490
02:21:17,921 --> 02:21:15,260
who were there wrapped her and sort of a

2491
02:21:21,850 --> 02:21:17,931
netting she said it was reminded her of

2492
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:21,860
a fish netting they bound her up like a

2493
02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:27,200
cocoon and then continued to take her

2494
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:29,630
through the wall out into the air and

2495
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:33,650
into a spaceship she was conscious for

2496
02:21:41,020 --> 02:21:36,970
that but she couldn't move and they said

2497
02:21:43,990 --> 02:21:41,030
we thought this might happen and we are

2498
02:21:47,410 --> 02:21:44,000
wrapping you up because we don't want

2499
02:21:51,131 --> 02:21:47,420
you to hurt yourself and we don't want

2500
02:21:54,280 --> 02:21:51,141
you to hurt us so when they got into the

2501
02:21:57,881 --> 02:21:54,290
spaceship they stood her up on her feet

2502
02:22:00,280 --> 02:21:57,891
and they unwrapped the fish netting sort

2503
02:22:03,070 --> 02:22:00,290
of material so if she wasn't bound up

2504
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:03,080
anymore and then she went on with the

2505
02:22:11,220 --> 02:22:06,290
rest of the experience which happened to

2506
02:22:15,301 --> 02:22:11,230
he was a very illumined high dimensional

2507
02:22:18,940 --> 02:22:15,311
spiritual being it was a magnificent

2508
02:22:23,230 --> 02:22:18,950
encounter as it turned out but that's

2509
02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:23,240
just an example of how they know that we

2510
02:22:29,970 --> 02:22:26,690
get very very reactive and very

2511
02:22:32,381 --> 02:22:29,980
frightened about these unusual things

2512
02:22:34,180 --> 02:22:32,391
they don't they don't want to be hurt

2513
02:22:38,350 --> 02:22:34,190
and they don't want us to hurt ourselves

2514
02:22:41,980 --> 02:22:38,360
in the process now I wanted to ask you

2515
02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:41,990
really quick before we do run out of

2516
02:22:45,940 --> 02:22:44,330
time in about 6 minutes what do you

2517
02:22:50,140 --> 02:22:45,950
think about what's going on down in

2518
02:22:54,490 --> 02:22:50,150
Antarctica right now we've got a lot of

2519
02:22:56,350 --> 02:22:54,500
ice that is melting and a lot of talk

2520
02:22:58,720 --> 02:22:56,360
about things that are about to be

2521
02:23:01,421 --> 02:22:58,730
discovered underneath that ice do you

2522
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:01,431
have any information on that well I've

2523
02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:03,650
heard other people speak about it other

2524
02:23:07,160 --> 02:23:04,950
people who

2525
02:23:11,960 --> 02:23:07,170
actually have been researching that and

2526
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:11,970
I am absolutely intrigued because not

2527
02:23:17,570 --> 02:23:15,450
only are there pyramids that are

2528
02:23:20,900 --> 02:23:17,580
sticking up the point of the pyramids

2529
02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:20,910
are sticking up out of the melting ice

2530
02:23:28,180 --> 02:23:24,240
that's intriguing in itself but also

2531
02:23:30,591 --> 02:23:28,190
there are these people who have explored

2532
02:23:34,520 --> 02:23:30,601
underground facilities that are two

2533
02:23:38,750 --> 02:23:34,530
miles down deep right under the surface

2534
02:23:43,190 --> 02:23:38,760
of the ice and snow and Antarctica there

2535
02:23:47,690 --> 02:23:43,200
are huge caverns that and with

2536
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:47,700
structures like an 80-foot tall ceiling

2537
02:23:55,341 --> 02:23:51,090
or just hearing the other day from Linda

2538
02:23:59,240 --> 02:23:55,351
Moulton Howe and no columns holding up

2539
02:24:05,200 --> 02:23:59,250
that 80-foot tall ceiling and there were

2540
02:24:10,060 --> 02:24:05,210
ancient buildings full of carvings and

2541
02:24:12,790 --> 02:24:10,070
hieroglyphics that are very much like

2542
02:24:16,480 --> 02:24:12,800
hieroglyphics that have been found on

2543
02:24:21,230 --> 02:24:16,490
unbeknownst to most humans on Mars and

2544
02:24:24,530 --> 02:24:21,240
also on structures on the moon so it

2545
02:24:28,940 --> 02:24:24,540
implies that there was an

2546
02:24:32,591 --> 02:24:28,950
extraterrestrial civilization there a

2547
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:32,601
long long time ago

2548
02:24:40,131 --> 02:24:36,690
loads of artifacts loads of carvings I

2549
02:24:43,610 --> 02:24:40,141
mean it is absolutely intriguing I think

2550
02:24:45,710 --> 02:24:43,620
you know what's been going on down there

2551
02:24:48,261 --> 02:24:45,720
two miles deep a batch of that I know

2552
02:24:51,500 --> 02:24:48,271
imagine that and and when we talk about

2553
02:24:54,921 --> 02:24:51,510
disclosure I think you're right you know

2554
02:24:57,740 --> 02:24:54,931
disclose your lies within us but it's

2555
02:24:59,540 --> 02:24:57,750
gonna be something that is gonna be out

2556
02:25:01,280 --> 02:24:59,550
of the government's control and then

2557
02:25:03,921 --> 02:25:01,290
they're just gonna have to fess up I

2558
02:25:05,180 --> 02:25:03,931
think that yeah ultimately I think

2559
02:25:07,700 --> 02:25:05,190
that's what it's going to be we can't

2560
02:25:10,460 --> 02:25:07,710
sit around on our hands and and wait for

2561
02:25:12,860 --> 02:25:10,470
somebody to just you know start to admit

2562
02:25:15,140 --> 02:25:12,870
things it's something is going to be

2563
02:25:16,149 --> 02:25:15,150
happen something is going to happen that

2564
02:25:18,519 --> 02:25:16,159
they can't

2565
02:25:21,639 --> 02:25:18,529
and then they've got to come clean and

2566
02:25:23,830 --> 02:25:21,649
yes it's you know the odds every day

2567
02:25:29,889 --> 02:25:23,840
that passes is one more one more day

2568
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:29,899
closer to that craziness an exciting

2569
02:25:36,969 --> 02:25:33,520
time this is you know getting ready for

2570
02:25:39,670 --> 02:25:36,979
an official disclosure and all of the

2571
02:25:42,130 --> 02:25:39,680
things that we're learning about it you

2572
02:25:46,269 --> 02:25:42,140
know so many people involved in this

2573
02:25:48,639 --> 02:25:46,279
research so many people experiencing the

2574
02:25:51,330 --> 02:25:48,649
encounters with the beings so many

2575
02:25:55,899 --> 02:25:51,340
people having sightings of unusual

2576
02:25:59,469 --> 02:25:55,909
crafts which we call UFOs I mean it it

2577
02:26:02,380 --> 02:25:59,479
is bustling with activity and we are

2578
02:26:05,050 --> 02:26:02,390
getting to be aware of some of that so

2579
02:26:06,820 --> 02:26:05,060
what's up next for you do you have a new

2580
02:26:11,019 --> 02:26:06,830
book coming out what are you working on

2581
02:26:14,769 --> 02:26:11,029
what's next well what's next for me is a

2582
02:26:17,710 --> 02:26:14,779
more personal endeavor and that is I

2583
02:26:21,700 --> 02:26:17,720
want to write about some of the would I

2584
02:26:25,750 --> 02:26:21,710
consider highly unusual experiences that

2585
02:26:28,929 --> 02:26:25,760
I have had in my life involving spirit

2586
02:26:30,849 --> 02:26:28,939
visitations and solving going into the

2587
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:30,859
spirit world

2588
02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:35,170
amazing past life experiences

2589
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:38,920
spontaneous recalled and regressed to

2590
02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:43,760
many out-of-body experiences all kinds

2591
02:26:50,200 --> 02:26:47,359
of things like that you know that then I

2592
02:26:52,149 --> 02:26:50,210
personally have experienced I can't wait

2593
02:26:54,309 --> 02:26:52,159
I can't wait I can't wait to get you

2594
02:26:56,290 --> 02:26:54,319
back on the show we started to talk a

2595
02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:56,300
little bit about that over lunch the

2596
02:27:01,450 --> 02:26:58,640
other day and I'm looking at you and I'm

2597
02:27:04,059 --> 02:27:01,460
like this this this woman has so many

2598
02:27:07,090 --> 02:27:04,069
layers Barbara you have so many layers

2599
02:27:09,519 --> 02:27:07,100
to you and I look forward to our next

2600
02:27:11,050 --> 02:27:09,529
conversation and and just thank you so

2601
02:27:13,210 --> 02:27:11,060
much from everybody here in our

2602
02:27:15,550 --> 02:27:13,220
community thank you for everything that

2603
02:27:19,030 --> 02:27:15,560
you do don't stop and I look forward to

2604
02:27:20,679 --> 02:27:19,040
the book great Thank You Jimmy Thank You

2605
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:20,689
Barbara thank you so much Barbara

2606
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:24,050
Barbara Lamb and her website and the

2607
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links are right there are two meters

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barbar lam MF t-dot-com you can go and

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check that out everything is right there

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Jimmy Church radio.com barber Lam I am

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your host Jimmy church this is fade to

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black

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02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:41,200
what a wonderful conversation five years

2615
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:43,120
we've been talking about it and we got

2616
02:27:46,770 --> 02:27:44,650
her done it was amazing

2617
02:27:48,301 --> 02:27:46,780
Thank You Barbara I am arrows Jimmy

2618
02:27:50,100 --> 02:27:48,311
Church I'll be right back after this

2619
02:27:53,131 --> 02:27:50,110
short break I'll open up the phone lines

2620
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and we'll walk out this last segment

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[Music]

2705
02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:37,639
all right welcome back I want to thank

2706
02:32:41,960 --> 02:32:39,200
Barbara Lam

2707
02:32:44,960 --> 02:32:41,970
unbelievable conversation I say that

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02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:44,970
every time to Donna that was amazing

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02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:46,800
I'm opening up the phone lines right now

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02:32:55,059 --> 02:32:51,200
seven four seven two two eight two zero

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five one seven four seven two two eight

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two zero five one let's go straight to

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02:33:03,139 --> 02:33:00,000
the phones hi you're live on fade to

2714
02:33:06,590 --> 02:33:03,149
black who's calling hi Jimmy it's Eric

2715
02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:06,600
hey Eric how are you I'm not doing real

2716
02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:08,850
well but I was inspired by Barbara's

2717
02:33:16,929 --> 02:33:12,330
accounts tonight why why why aren't you

2718
02:33:20,090 --> 02:33:16,939
doing well well I'm not really sure but

2719
02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:20,100
Wednesday last week I started feeling

2720
02:33:27,290 --> 02:33:24,090
kind of nauseous and and I started

2721
02:33:30,410 --> 02:33:27,300
throwing up and nothing was really

2722
02:33:32,059 --> 02:33:30,420
coming out you know and so I just wasn't

2723
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:32,069
really able to eat anything I was kind

2724
02:33:35,660 --> 02:33:33,330
of thinking maybe I just got a little

2725
02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:35,670
something and then Friday came and I was

2726
02:33:38,210 --> 02:33:36,930
just praying that I was going to get

2727
02:33:42,320 --> 02:33:38,220
better so I can come to the conference

2728
02:33:44,599 --> 02:33:42,330
and then it just got worse and I've been

2729
02:33:46,580 --> 02:33:44,609
having this I've been having this kind

2730
02:33:48,620 --> 02:33:46,590
of black gooey stuff coming out of both

2731
02:33:50,030 --> 02:33:48,630
ends in my body for five days now I

2732
02:33:51,860 --> 02:33:50,040
haven't been able to eat or hold

2733
02:33:54,139 --> 02:33:51,870
anything down this there we can drink

2734
02:34:00,019 --> 02:33:54,149
water yeah I do that every day before

2735
02:34:03,650 --> 02:34:00,029
the show so you know so the sounds like

2736
02:34:05,510 --> 02:34:03,660
food poisoning yeah I don't know I

2737
02:34:07,070 --> 02:34:05,520
called John Polk and told him because

2738
02:34:08,809 --> 02:34:07,080
you think you're being attacked and like

2739
02:34:10,849 --> 02:34:08,819
I don't know dude I just know that I'm

2740
02:34:12,410 --> 02:34:10,859
sick and I don't feel good it comes in

2741
02:34:14,599 --> 02:34:12,420
waves it's like I'll feel like I'm

2742
02:34:16,309 --> 02:34:14,609
getting better and then a couple hours

2743
02:34:17,599 --> 02:34:16,319
later I'm on the phone in the toilet

2744
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:17,609
again you know it's just one of those

2745
02:34:22,670 --> 02:34:18,810
things it's weird

2746
02:34:25,250 --> 02:34:22,680
right right right well I hope you get to

2747
02:34:28,610 --> 02:34:25,260
feeling better you know and there's

2748
02:34:31,250 --> 02:34:28,620
nothing like you know late night you got

2749
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:31,260
your your beverage of choice and you got

2750
02:34:33,500 --> 02:34:33,210
your blankie and you've got fade to

2751
02:34:36,410 --> 02:34:33,510
black

2752
02:34:39,769 --> 02:34:36,420
right and you get to just you know get a

2753
02:34:42,410 --> 02:34:39,779
little comfy and and and and you get to

2754
02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:42,420
hear talk about hybrids you know you

2755
02:34:49,370 --> 02:34:42,720
know

2756
02:34:51,769 --> 02:34:49,380
better so okay so uh you called me what

2757
02:34:53,870 --> 02:34:51,779
do you think yeah I'll tell you the

2758
02:34:56,450 --> 02:34:53,880
hybrid story but real quickly I was

2759
02:34:58,519 --> 02:34:56,460
lucky enough somebody posted a YouTube

2760
02:35:00,260 --> 02:34:58,529
video of your a panel I don't know if

2761
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:00,270
you probably know that on Friday and I

2762
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:01,770
just thought it was fantastic I just

2763
02:35:06,410 --> 02:35:04,770
want to say great job I mean just really

2764
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:06,420
at least I got to experience the two

2765
02:35:11,960 --> 02:35:08,160
hours that you were there Friday through

2766
02:35:15,380 --> 02:35:11,970
that YouTube video yeah that that I've

2767
02:35:16,880 --> 02:35:15,390
done an awful lot of panels Eric you

2768
02:35:20,420 --> 02:35:16,890
know you've certainly been to a number

2769
02:35:25,519 --> 02:35:20,430
of them and I've done I've done a lot of

2770
02:35:28,929 --> 02:35:25,529
panels and that one was right up there

2771
02:35:31,130 --> 02:35:28,939
and and that that says a lot considering

2772
02:35:34,940 --> 02:35:31,140
some of the things that I've been very

2773
02:35:36,650 --> 02:35:34,950
lucky to do over the years to host that

2774
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:36,660
was a that was pretty cool that was

2775
02:35:40,219 --> 02:35:37,410
pretty special

2776
02:35:42,290 --> 02:35:40,229
yeah and that you got a great blend I

2777
02:35:43,940 --> 02:35:42,300
mean with the rabbi and of course you

2778
02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:43,950
know mr. Carson and Linda Moulton Howe

2779
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:46,890
and Jason I just thought the blend was

2780
02:35:50,420 --> 02:35:48,450
really interesting because you had a lot

2781
02:35:55,099 --> 02:35:50,430
of different kind of perspectives yep

2782
02:35:59,179 --> 02:35:55,109
yep and of course Eric who was so we

2783
02:36:00,979 --> 02:35:59,189
were around Eric all weekend dude was I

2784
02:36:06,590 --> 02:36:00,989
don't have another way to explain it

2785
02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:06,600
dude was bubbly uppity happy hanging out

2786
02:36:13,490 --> 02:36:10,170
running around non-stop and it was so

2787
02:36:15,260 --> 02:36:13,500
much fun to be around him he was he was

2788
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:15,270
totally cool man totally did you get to

2789
02:36:23,389 --> 02:36:21,330
do a shot with him I thought about I did

2790
02:36:26,570 --> 02:36:23,399
some other things but I didn't do that

2791
02:36:29,570 --> 02:36:26,580
but did you hear him say gobekli tepe

2792
02:36:31,099 --> 02:36:29,580
yes I did I liked the way he pronounced

2793
02:36:32,300 --> 02:36:31,109
it in this German tongue I thought was

2794
02:36:33,740 --> 02:36:32,310
kind of cool too I don't know how he

2795
02:36:38,150 --> 02:36:33,750
said it but it just sounded kind of cool

2796
02:36:40,280 --> 02:36:38,160
yeah the next day when I was it was the

2797
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:40,290
next morning I'm introducing him again

2798
02:36:45,019 --> 02:36:42,210
writes the next morning and we're

2799
02:36:49,910 --> 02:36:45,029
hanging out backstage and I said to him

2800
02:36:52,130 --> 02:36:49,920
I said Eric said gobekli tepe again for

2801
02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:52,140
me and he starts laughing and he goes

2802
02:36:56,300 --> 02:36:54,330
Jimmy I say it wrong

2803
02:36:58,219 --> 02:36:56,310
I said what do you mean he goes the

2804
02:37:01,370 --> 02:36:58,229
Germans have it backwards

2805
02:37:03,530 --> 02:37:01,380
and I said when it would he mean and

2806
02:37:07,090 --> 02:37:03,540
Ramone jumps in you know remote remote

2807
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:07,100
jumps in he says the K in the L R

2808
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:11,130
reversed and I said oh really and so

2809
02:37:16,849 --> 02:37:13,010
Eric whips it off a couple more times

2810
02:37:19,250 --> 02:37:16,859
and went oh I hear it okay now I get it

2811
02:37:21,469 --> 02:37:19,260
and Eric goes so I say the German way

2812
02:37:24,260 --> 02:37:21,479
but it is it's wrong it's not the right

2813
02:37:26,179 --> 02:37:24,270
way you say it correct Jimmy I said ah

2814
02:37:28,910 --> 02:37:26,189
man I like yours better because I like

2815
02:37:31,700 --> 02:37:28,920
yours better but I can't it's really

2816
02:37:34,480 --> 02:37:31,710
funny city you're debating with Erich

2817
02:37:37,010 --> 02:37:34,490
von däniken how to say gobekli tepe and

2818
02:37:38,450 --> 02:37:37,020
was so funny he said I just can't say it

2819
02:37:40,760 --> 02:37:38,460
the right way now I've said it the wrong

2820
02:37:43,940 --> 02:37:40,770
way for so many years I just can't say

2821
02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:43,950
it the right way but okay yeah the panel

2822
02:37:52,660 --> 02:37:46,890
was fun man and I'm glad that you caught

2823
02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:52,670
it I did see I watched the opening

2824
02:38:02,770 --> 02:37:56,090
moments of it today because I wanted to

2825
02:38:04,790 --> 02:38:02,780
catch when I think her name is arianah I

2826
02:38:06,530 --> 02:38:04,800
who I brought up from out of the

2827
02:38:09,650 --> 02:38:06,540
audience to sign you know to get the

2828
02:38:15,050 --> 02:38:09,660
book signed and I got here some that by

2829
02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:15,060
the way I did I did too today I watched

2830
02:38:22,969 --> 02:38:20,399
it again and she had no idea and she was

2831
02:38:25,070 --> 02:38:22,979
so cool I was worried that I picked

2832
02:38:28,490 --> 02:38:25,080
somebody that would go now I don't want

2833
02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:28,500
to come up on stage all right and but

2834
02:38:34,820 --> 02:38:32,160
yeah first time it worked and she jumped

2835
02:38:36,820 --> 02:38:34,830
up and she was just she was just amazing

2836
02:38:39,139 --> 02:38:36,830
she was just amazing

2837
02:38:40,969 --> 02:38:39,149
there's only one thing that I'm not

2838
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:40,979
trying to be critical at here but I'm

2839
02:38:44,179 --> 02:38:42,450
just wondering if Rita gave you a little

2840
02:38:45,889 --> 02:38:44,189
spanking later that night because when

2841
02:38:47,450 --> 02:38:45,899
you introduced Billy and you referred to

2842
02:38:49,700 --> 02:38:47,460
his lovely wife and then you made a

2843
02:38:53,559 --> 02:38:49,710
comment about Rita and I thought Jimmy

2844
02:38:55,730 --> 02:38:53,569
why did you say that what did I say you

2845
02:38:57,820 --> 02:38:55,740
go back and listen to it I don't want to

2846
02:39:01,520 --> 02:38:57,830
throw you under the bus on the radio

2847
02:39:04,969 --> 02:39:01,530
okay anyway it's not a big deal but I

2848
02:39:08,120 --> 02:39:04,979
fear Rita heard it oh you're talking

2849
02:39:15,109 --> 02:39:13,550
just about you know okay Eric okay Eric

2850
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:15,119
I have no idea what you're talking about

2851
02:39:19,550 --> 02:39:16,560
and I think you're imagining things

2852
02:39:22,849 --> 02:39:19,560
nobody else had any thought nobody went

2853
02:39:26,359 --> 02:39:22,859
up to read him when Jimmy said so I'm in

2854
02:39:32,109 --> 02:39:26,369
the clear Rita don't ask don't ask Eric

2855
02:39:34,670 --> 02:39:32,119
anything nothing happened okay you call

2856
02:39:37,849 --> 02:39:34,680
yeah yeah yeah he called in about

2857
02:39:39,920 --> 02:39:37,859
Barbara yeah well it was Barbra

2858
02:39:42,290 --> 02:39:39,930
triggered the memory because last year

2859
02:39:44,750 --> 02:39:42,300
when I was in Sedona there was a

2860
02:39:46,820 --> 02:39:44,760
conference that Suzanne Ross was putting

2861
02:39:49,580 --> 02:39:46,830
on and she had several people and so I

2862
02:39:52,639 --> 02:39:49,590
got invited and the stage this lady

2863
02:39:54,649 --> 02:39:52,649
named I mean it was a Laura Thunder beat

2864
02:39:56,080 --> 02:39:54,659
or Thunder beat I forget her first name

2865
02:40:00,559 --> 02:39:56,090
but anyway she was doing a presentation

2866
02:40:03,830 --> 02:40:00,569
and she was playing some some Indian

2867
02:40:06,590 --> 02:40:03,840
type of Congo stuff on stage you know

2868
02:40:09,109 --> 02:40:06,600
after her presentation and I'm standing

2869
02:40:10,370 --> 02:40:09,119
in the back standing room only at this

2870
02:40:12,740 --> 02:40:10,380
conference it was really pretty good

2871
02:40:15,260 --> 02:40:12,750
conference she was it massive there's

2872
02:40:16,880 --> 02:40:15,270
probably hundred 50 people there but it

2873
02:40:19,309 --> 02:40:16,890
was interesting I've learned in my

2874
02:40:21,019 --> 02:40:19,319
travels is these different locations you

2875
02:40:22,849 --> 02:40:21,029
get you get a diff you get a different

2876
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:22,859
kind of blend of people and the Sedona

2877
02:40:29,809 --> 02:40:25,439
Arizona type conferences you get a lot

2878
02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:29,819
of kind of spiritual you know I don't

2879
02:40:32,359 --> 02:40:31,050
even know the right word to put it but

2880
02:40:34,219 --> 02:40:32,369
there's just a different kind of flavor

2881
02:40:35,809 --> 02:40:34,229
and a different kind of energy to some

2882
02:40:37,130 --> 02:40:35,819
of these speakers and the people that go

2883
02:40:38,479 --> 02:40:37,140
to these conferences so I mean we're

2884
02:40:42,229 --> 02:40:38,489
standing in the back room

2885
02:40:43,820 --> 02:40:42,239
Danny Nexus use the N Roth and we're

2886
02:40:45,349 --> 02:40:43,830
just kind of looking around the room and

2887
02:40:48,320 --> 02:40:45,359
you know and this lady's playing her

2888
02:40:50,059 --> 02:40:48,330
music and then she goes look over there

2889
02:40:53,059 --> 02:40:50,069
when I go where she was over there and I

2890
02:40:55,910 --> 02:40:53,069
looked to my left and there's this this

2891
02:41:00,309 --> 02:40:55,920
lady very probably in her early 20s I

2892
02:41:03,950 --> 02:41:00,319
would say dairy can't eat blonde hair

2893
02:41:06,740 --> 02:41:03,960
her hair was really very thin and kind

2894
02:41:08,870 --> 02:41:06,750
of kind of it didn't look healthy it

2895
02:41:11,149 --> 02:41:08,880
looks kind of stringy but it was but she

2896
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:11,159
was beautiful she was only maybe five

2897
02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:14,010
feet tall and she's doing this dance

2898
02:41:17,990 --> 02:41:15,930
where she's got her hands and her arms

2899
02:41:20,149 --> 02:41:18,000
moving above her head and she's moving

2900
02:41:21,740 --> 02:41:20,159
her body around and it wasn't that's all

2901
02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:21,750
or anything but it was just

2902
02:41:27,290 --> 02:41:24,110
never ever seen anybody move like that

2903
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:27,300
and she goes she goes Suzanne goes that

2904
02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:30,330
she's a hybrid I go but she goes look at

2905
02:41:35,300 --> 02:41:33,090
her and I'm staring at her and then she

2906
02:41:37,580 --> 02:41:35,310
looks the lady looks over at us in her

2907
02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:37,590
and she had these blue eyes that were

2908
02:41:43,490 --> 02:41:41,250
probably 50% larger in terms of the

2909
02:41:46,460 --> 02:41:43,500
orbital structure of eyeballs than your

2910
02:41:48,350 --> 02:41:46,470
standard human eyeballs when I touch me

2911
02:41:49,970 --> 02:41:48,360
she is a hybrid I'm thinking you know

2912
02:41:51,350 --> 02:41:49,980
you're not kidding right so I usually

2913
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:51,360
think this lady's eye but she goes like

2914
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:55,110
I just know she is I can feel it so so

2915
02:41:59,570 --> 02:41:56,690
we're watching her dance and then the

2916
02:42:01,490 --> 02:41:59,580
song ends and I you know me I got to

2917
02:42:02,930 --> 02:42:01,500
talk to this lady I got it I got to go

2918
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:02,940
up and figure out what the deal is with

2919
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:05,850
this lady so she walks outside of me in

2920
02:42:09,500 --> 02:42:07,920
the little you know waiting area after

2921
02:42:12,740 --> 02:42:09,510
the conference kind of been a little

2922
02:42:14,360 --> 02:42:12,750
break time and I walked up to her and I

2923
02:42:16,250 --> 02:42:14,370
didn't remember the questions I asked

2924
02:42:19,250 --> 02:42:16,260
her cuz I was kind of I was kind of in

2925
02:42:21,710 --> 02:42:19,260
awe of her because she just looked very

2926
02:42:23,450 --> 02:42:21,720
unique and I remember I asked her where

2927
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:23,460
she's from she said she was from Los

2928
02:42:29,030 --> 02:42:27,330
Angeles and and I was asking her these

2929
02:42:32,090 --> 02:42:29,040
questions and she was just giving me

2930
02:42:33,890 --> 02:42:32,100
these answers that were almost like they

2931
02:42:35,960 --> 02:42:33,900
just didn't feel like they were flowing

2932
02:42:38,780 --> 02:42:35,970
in a natural normal way it was really

2933
02:42:41,540 --> 02:42:38,790
strange and so then this guy walks up

2934
02:42:43,220 --> 02:42:41,550
and it turns out this guy that walked up

2935
02:42:46,430 --> 02:42:43,230
I guess brought her to the conference

2936
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,440
and he was kind of like listening to us

2937
02:42:50,630 --> 02:42:48,000
talk and kind of like almost like

2938
02:42:52,430 --> 02:42:50,640
protecting her so I was started to go

2939
02:42:54,320 --> 02:42:52,440
into my little investigation mode just

2940
02:42:57,470 --> 02:42:54,330
very carefully trying to probe and

2941
02:42:59,720 --> 02:42:57,480
because this lady was different and I

2942
02:43:03,020 --> 02:42:59,730
had to bet I would say that woman was a

2943
02:43:04,190 --> 02:43:03,030
hybrid because she they left after that

2944
02:43:06,260 --> 02:43:04,200
it was almost like they didn't want

2945
02:43:09,230 --> 02:43:06,270
anybody to really know I talked to this

2946
02:43:10,940 --> 02:43:09,240
woman he was trying to protect her and I

2947
02:43:12,470 --> 02:43:10,950
was kind of bummed because I was hoping

2948
02:43:14,390 --> 02:43:12,480
that you know the next day I was gonna

2949
02:43:17,270 --> 02:43:14,400
get to see her again and maybe try to

2950
02:43:20,030 --> 02:43:17,280
ask him more questions but anyway I just

2951
02:43:21,890 --> 02:43:20,040
I just think this hybrid thing is real

2952
02:43:23,900 --> 02:43:21,900
I'm just and I think that they've been

2953
02:43:26,660 --> 02:43:23,910
around for a while I actually think that

2954
02:43:28,640 --> 02:43:26,670
there's a there's hybrid humans on on

2955
02:43:30,650 --> 02:43:28,650
earth right now walking amongst us I

2956
02:43:32,960 --> 02:43:30,660
don't know if I'm gonna go as far as is

2957
02:43:35,270 --> 02:43:32,970
the guy that she was referring to that

2958
02:43:37,850 --> 02:43:35,280
David - dr. Jacobs

2959
02:43:39,710 --> 02:43:37,860
maybe maybe not I mean but when you see

2960
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:39,720
something like that and you experience

2961
02:43:43,340 --> 02:43:41,490
talking with somebody like that you it

2962
02:43:45,410 --> 02:43:43,350
makes you stop and think well maybe this

2963
02:43:48,050 --> 02:43:45,420
is true and then you hear somebody like

2964
02:43:50,060 --> 02:43:48,060
Barbara Lam describe her research and

2965
02:43:51,710 --> 02:43:50,070
her experiences you know the pieces

2966
02:43:53,870 --> 02:43:51,720
start to come together and some of these

2967
02:43:55,430 --> 02:43:53,880
stories searches but at first when I

2968
02:43:57,770 --> 02:43:55,440
first heard these stories about come on

2969
02:44:00,140 --> 02:43:57,780
now but then they become more plausible

2970
02:44:02,150 --> 02:44:00,150
and then they become more possible and

2971
02:44:04,100 --> 02:44:02,160
so I don't know it's just really

2972
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:04,110
grateful to be left to have the

2973
02:44:07,670 --> 02:44:06,000
opportunity to meet all you guys and

2974
02:44:09,890 --> 02:44:07,680
experience all these conferences and

2975
02:44:12,410 --> 02:44:09,900
listen all your shows because really and

2976
02:44:14,840 --> 02:44:12,420
my mind and my is expanding and I'm

2977
02:44:16,190 --> 02:44:14,850
constantly learning and one thing I have

2978
02:44:18,740 --> 02:44:16,200
learned is some of the things that I

2979
02:44:20,540 --> 02:44:18,750
believe a year or two ago I've kind of

2980
02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:20,550
gone in and a little bit of another

2981
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:23,040
direction where I feel like I just

2982
02:44:26,900 --> 02:44:25,200
suggested everybody try to keep an open

2983
02:44:28,760 --> 02:44:26,910
mind as possible about some of these

2984
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:28,770
things because I might sound nutty at

2985
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:30,810
first but some of this stuff I don't

2986
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:33,210
think it's nutty that's all we have so

2987
02:44:39,740 --> 02:44:36,930
much fun without you do you must sit you

2988
02:44:42,620 --> 02:44:39,750
missed it all man you miss it of the the

2989
02:44:48,020 --> 02:44:42,630
stories the fainter not the private

2990
02:44:49,160 --> 02:44:48,030
parties man this was the one this was

2991
02:44:55,550 --> 02:44:49,170
the one

2992
02:44:57,730 --> 02:44:55,560
everything that I have hung out with you

2993
02:45:01,600 --> 02:44:57,740
with over the years this was the one

2994
02:45:07,460 --> 02:45:01,610
okay I'll share this with you you ready

2995
02:45:12,200 --> 02:45:07,470
okay so I'm out in front of the Hilton

2996
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:12,210
Hotel and I meet the night before this

2997
02:45:18,890 --> 02:45:16,800
this lady had offered are you moving

2998
02:45:22,910 --> 02:45:18,900
your phone around don't move it keep it

2999
02:45:26,660 --> 02:45:22,920
still okay okay cuz that's really loud

3000
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:26,670
okay no you know okay all right that's

3001
02:45:33,620 --> 02:45:31,200
that's probably a good idea so I the

3002
02:45:37,130 --> 02:45:33,630
night before this lady officer offers us

3003
02:45:40,580 --> 02:45:37,140
her table her corner because she saw the

3004
02:45:42,620 --> 02:45:40,590
fader not standing there and we ended up

3005
02:45:45,980 --> 02:45:42,630
not taking her table but the next day

3006
02:45:47,210 --> 02:45:45,990
she was outside and she came up and I

3007
02:45:48,010 --> 02:45:47,220
thanked her I said you know thank you

3008
02:45:50,290 --> 02:45:48,020
for offering

3009
02:45:51,969 --> 02:45:50,300
that you know we you know wombs have

3010
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:51,979
been anyway so I started talking to her

3011
02:46:01,059 --> 02:45:56,000
and she tells me she pulls up this

3012
02:46:07,359 --> 02:46:01,069
picture of herself in her phone of her

3013
02:46:11,950 --> 02:46:07,369
square pupils and I'm looking now we're

3014
02:46:14,500 --> 02:46:11,960
up at the booth I'm sitting at the table

3015
02:46:19,689 --> 02:46:14,510
at the booth and I'm talking to her

3016
02:46:24,219 --> 02:46:19,699
looking at this picture and Sid Goldberg

3017
02:46:27,519 --> 02:46:24,229
steps up and and and he's joining in on

3018
02:46:31,929 --> 02:46:27,529
our conversation and I show him the

3019
02:46:33,519 --> 02:46:31,939
picture of her square pupils and as he's

3020
02:46:35,529 --> 02:46:33,529
looking at the picture I'm looking at

3021
02:46:38,429 --> 02:46:35,539
her I'm sitting down she's standing in

3022
02:46:42,040 --> 02:46:38,439
front of me and I looked up and I said

3023
02:46:45,370 --> 02:46:42,050
you're your pupils are square right now

3024
02:46:48,279 --> 02:46:45,380
and she goes what and I said they are

3025
02:46:51,029 --> 02:46:48,289
and Sid goes oh man they are and he

3026
02:46:56,920 --> 02:46:51,039
grabs his phone and takes a picture

3027
02:46:59,260 --> 02:46:56,930
close-up of her face and and she flips

3028
02:47:03,849 --> 02:46:59,270
it around and shows her her pupils are

3029
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:03,859
square dude square not like kind of

3030
02:47:15,849 --> 02:47:11,840
square square and then he took another

3031
02:47:20,349 --> 02:47:15,859
picture with a flash and when he did

3032
02:47:25,120 --> 02:47:20,359
that her pupils went round just like

3033
02:47:27,309 --> 02:47:25,130
that and now she sent me I've got I've

3034
02:47:30,429 --> 02:47:27,319
got her pictures I've got I've got I've

3035
02:47:33,279 --> 02:47:30,439
got them I and and all I've said send me

3036
02:47:36,189 --> 02:47:33,289
the one that he took in front of us but

3037
02:47:41,050 --> 02:47:36,199
it was one of it now I'm telling you my

3038
02:47:41,469 --> 02:47:41,060
mind gets blown very rarely that freaked

3039
02:47:45,790 --> 02:47:41,479
me out

3040
02:47:47,349 --> 02:47:45,800
first time I looked in the face of a

3041
02:47:50,319 --> 02:47:47,359
baby goat you know and you see those

3042
02:47:52,000 --> 02:47:50,329
rectangle pupils it just doesn't you

3043
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:52,010
know it just doesn't look normal

3044
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:54,560
we're used to round pupils and you know

3045
02:48:00,939 --> 02:47:58,399
humans look at other humans eyes and we

3046
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:00,949
have adapted to that through evolution

3047
02:48:03,480 --> 02:48:01,210
for

3048
02:48:05,460 --> 02:48:03,490
years and and that's how we read people

3049
02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:05,470
and and we look at the beauty of the eye

3050
02:48:11,520 --> 02:48:09,160
and and and we know what to expect when

3051
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:11,530
you see a square pupil that throws you

3052
02:48:17,250 --> 02:48:14,080
off your game and I'm telling you Eric

3053
02:48:28,290 --> 02:48:17,260
it was unbelievable I wish you were

3054
02:48:30,380 --> 02:48:28,300
there the I don't want to get into too

3055
02:48:33,570 --> 02:48:30,390
much of the personal side of the story

3056
02:48:37,230 --> 02:48:33,580
because that's hers I don't have that

3057
02:48:40,350 --> 02:48:37,240
permission but the way that she found

3058
02:48:43,260 --> 02:48:40,360
out about it the first time was this was

3059
02:48:43,980 --> 02:48:43,270
just three years ago and she was with a

3060
02:48:46,410 --> 02:48:43,990
friend

3061
02:48:49,890 --> 02:48:46,420
and he was looking at her and he's like

3062
02:48:51,480 --> 02:48:49,900
your your pupils are square and she's

3063
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:51,490
like what and that's when that picture

3064
02:48:58,040 --> 02:48:53,680
was taken the one that she showed me on

3065
02:49:00,719 --> 02:48:58,050
her phone and that before that she had

3066
02:49:03,660 --> 02:49:00,729
didn't know you know and they may have

3067
02:49:07,490 --> 02:49:03,670
been going square and nobody noticed it

3068
02:49:10,860 --> 02:49:07,500
I don't know she doesn't know either and

3069
02:49:12,330 --> 02:49:10,870
she was pretty surprised when I said to

3070
02:49:13,080 --> 02:49:12,340
her at that moment I said your pupil

3071
02:49:15,690 --> 02:49:13,090
square

3072
02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:15,700
I mean I'm two or three feet from her

3073
02:49:23,130 --> 02:49:18,430
and I'm looking up at her and they were

3074
02:49:24,990 --> 02:49:23,140
square and it it kind of blew her mind

3075
02:49:28,920 --> 02:49:25,000
for a moment because she wasn't

3076
02:49:31,410 --> 02:49:28,930
expecting me to say that Wow

3077
02:49:33,180 --> 02:49:31,420
yeah it is what you got any other calls

3078
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:33,190
on hold I got one more quick thing to

3079
02:49:36,510 --> 02:49:34,930
plug real fast and I'll get off the line

3080
02:49:39,270 --> 02:49:36,520
if you got another call are you you're

3081
02:49:47,640 --> 02:49:39,280
gonna plug something well probably a

3082
02:49:50,820 --> 02:49:47,650
plug CITV right and June if anybody

3083
02:49:53,969 --> 02:49:50,830
people don't Arizona next month on the

3084
02:49:55,320 --> 02:49:53,979
19th and the 20th Suzanne Ross is having

3085
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:55,330
another conference called beyond the

3086
02:50:00,540 --> 02:49:58,000
matrix and it's gonna be phenomenal so

3087
02:50:02,250 --> 02:50:00,550
it's a Tuesday and a Wednesday which is

3088
02:50:05,040 --> 02:50:02,260
kind of odd and that I know it might be

3089
02:50:06,540 --> 02:50:05,050
hard for some people but I just think if

3090
02:50:08,430 --> 02:50:06,550
you really if you can get out there

3091
02:50:09,719 --> 02:50:08,440
anybody listening to Sedona you're gonna

3092
02:50:11,130 --> 02:50:09,729
meet some interesting people and hear

3093
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:11,140
some interesting stories that you don't

3094
02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:12,160
always hear at some of these other

3095
02:50:14,500 --> 02:50:13,840
conferences so I just want to plug that

3096
02:50:17,080 --> 02:50:14,510
real

3097
02:50:18,939 --> 02:50:17,090
right on Eric and we'll see you a

3098
02:50:20,080 --> 02:50:18,949
contact in the desert man couple of

3099
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:20,090
months Oh

3100
02:50:27,760 --> 02:50:22,880
okay buddy take care have a good night

3101
02:50:29,939 --> 02:50:27,770
Eric Eric awakening man right there and

3102
02:50:34,899 --> 02:50:29,949
he's a little under the weather

3103
02:50:36,460 --> 02:50:34,909
black goo black goo I don't even want to

3104
02:50:37,750 --> 02:50:36,470
know I don't even wanna know what that

3105
02:50:40,510 --> 02:50:37,760
means

3106
02:50:43,000 --> 02:50:40,520
black goo Eric feel better feel better

3107
02:50:45,359 --> 02:50:43,010
my man let's go back to the phones high

3108
02:50:49,059 --> 02:50:45,369
your life on fade to black who's calling

3109
02:50:51,639 --> 02:50:49,069
hi my name is Jim I'm a longtime fan

3110
02:50:52,510 --> 02:50:51,649
that's the first time I call ya you

3111
02:50:55,090 --> 02:50:52,520
didn't get through

3112
02:50:56,889 --> 02:50:55,100
Jim and you got through because I see

3113
02:51:00,370 --> 02:50:56,899
here that you're a first-time caller

3114
02:51:05,189 --> 02:51:00,380
and first-time callers always go to the

3115
02:51:07,929 --> 02:51:05,199
front of the line right on what's I well

3116
02:51:09,340 --> 02:51:07,939
know I have a question for you I believe

3117
02:51:11,200 --> 02:51:09,350
I could ask you this I was just

3118
02:51:12,939 --> 02:51:11,210
listening to the show as usual and

3119
02:51:14,979 --> 02:51:12,949
researching on the internet and arguing

3120
02:51:16,210 --> 02:51:14,989
people on message boards and the called

3121
02:51:19,630 --> 02:51:16,220
Trinity Church and see what he thinks

3122
02:51:21,069 --> 02:51:19,640
do you think you have the craft I have

3123
02:51:22,599 --> 02:51:21,079
the capability based on their speed

3124
02:51:24,429 --> 02:51:22,609
physics all that from what you've heard

3125
02:51:28,300 --> 02:51:24,439
you know a million times more than me

3126
02:51:34,260 --> 02:51:28,310
could time travel of course yeah of

3127
02:51:39,130 --> 02:51:34,270
course yeah yeah and in effect any craft

3128
02:51:42,160 --> 02:51:39,140
that is approaching the speed of light

3129
02:51:43,870 --> 02:51:42,170
but it certainly it cheves the speed of

3130
02:51:48,609 --> 02:51:43,880
light or as approaching the speed of

3131
02:51:52,269 --> 02:51:48,619
light is time traveling so Jim look at

3132
02:51:55,689 --> 02:51:52,279
it this way okay so my name is Jim your

3133
02:52:00,399 --> 02:51:55,699
name is Jim so the two gems you and I

3134
02:52:03,069 --> 02:52:00,409
are on our starship cruiser right and

3135
02:52:08,050 --> 02:52:03,079
and and we and we take off from Earth

3136
02:52:11,439 --> 02:52:08,060
and we fly depends on the speed and so

3137
02:52:13,899 --> 02:52:11,449
forth but let's just say if you get to

3138
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:13,909
the speed of light time stand still you

3139
02:52:17,170 --> 02:52:15,920
know I mean it's a different aspect of

3140
02:52:19,809 --> 02:52:17,180
everything but let's say we're just

3141
02:52:22,479 --> 02:52:19,819
getting close to the speed of light like

3142
02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:22,489
right 99 percent or 90 percent 99

3143
02:52:27,380 --> 02:52:25,279
percent and we take off from Earth and

3144
02:52:32,120 --> 02:52:27,390
we fly in Wonder

3145
02:52:34,700 --> 02:52:32,130
correction for a year okay and at the

3146
02:52:38,210 --> 02:52:34,710
end of that year we make a u-turn and

3147
02:52:39,410 --> 02:52:38,220
now we fly at the speed of light back to

3148
02:52:43,700 --> 02:52:39,420
earth

3149
02:52:49,099 --> 02:52:43,710
okay are you with me yes now we get to

3150
02:52:54,830 --> 02:52:49,109
earth everybody that we know and love is

3151
02:52:58,910 --> 02:52:54,840
dead why because it's 100 years in the

3152
02:53:00,559 --> 02:52:58,920
future you and I it could be 200 years

3153
02:53:01,250 --> 02:53:00,569
in the future depends on how fast we

3154
02:53:07,719 --> 02:53:01,260
were going

3155
02:53:12,590 --> 02:53:07,729
but you and I have only aged two years

3156
02:53:16,969 --> 02:53:12,600
earth is a hundred years so what would

3157
02:53:20,110 --> 02:53:16,979
we be we will be time travelers from the

3158
02:53:27,550 --> 02:53:20,120
past right

3159
02:53:31,700 --> 02:53:27,560
Yeah right now yes this is this is

3160
02:53:35,149 --> 02:53:31,710
stated as direct as I am speaking to you

3161
02:53:40,820 --> 02:53:35,159
in ein time in Einstein's special

3162
02:53:42,639 --> 02:53:40,830
relativity theory and so when you think

3163
02:53:46,210 --> 02:53:42,649
about it in those terms

3164
02:53:51,290 --> 02:53:46,220
yes his time travel possible

3165
02:53:54,110 --> 02:53:51,300
absolutely the numbers say it is so okay

3166
02:53:56,840 --> 02:53:54,120
and that's that that's it now now now

3167
02:54:02,110 --> 02:53:56,850
there's another aspect to this gym which

3168
02:54:07,130 --> 02:54:02,120
is could spaceships be a time machine in

3169
02:54:09,290 --> 02:54:07,140
other words to selectively choose a date

3170
02:54:11,479 --> 02:54:09,300
and just go there or you and I don't

3171
02:54:13,070 --> 02:54:11,489
have to fly for a year and then turn

3172
02:54:16,849 --> 02:54:13,080
around and fly back for another year and

3173
02:54:19,969 --> 02:54:16,859
come back to earth to time travel but to

3174
02:54:24,679 --> 02:54:19,979
jump on a some kind of machine and go

3175
02:54:27,349 --> 02:54:24,689
let's go to the year you know zero right

3176
02:54:30,380 --> 02:54:27,359
let's go to work yeah yeah let's go to

3177
02:54:34,700 --> 02:54:30,390
33 AD and see Jesus on the cross right

3178
02:54:37,460 --> 02:54:34,710
that's it that's another situation all

3179
02:54:40,730 --> 02:54:37,470
together also would take a lot of energy

3180
02:54:44,091 --> 02:54:40,740
to do that but

3181
02:54:49,220 --> 02:54:44,101
is going backwards in time that's a

3182
02:54:51,770 --> 02:54:49,230
tough one going into the future is easy

3183
02:54:54,860 --> 02:54:51,780
I just told you how easy it is to go

3184
02:54:56,240 --> 02:54:54,870
into the future right okay so how far in

3185
02:54:58,030 --> 02:54:56,250
the future do you want to go do you want

3186
02:55:01,160 --> 02:54:58,040
to go ten thousand years in the future

3187
02:55:03,921 --> 02:55:01,170
approach the speed of light fly a little

3188
02:55:05,360 --> 02:55:03,931
bit longer and then come back and and

3189
02:55:07,910 --> 02:55:05,370
you'll be ten thousand years in the

3190
02:55:09,290 --> 02:55:07,920
future and and you are time traveler but

3191
02:55:12,440 --> 02:55:09,300
going backwards in the other direction

3192
02:55:18,290 --> 02:55:12,450
it's a little bit that's a little bit

3193
02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:18,300
tougher but I would say that lets us I

3194
02:55:25,011 --> 02:55:22,170
would say this that if you and I did

3195
02:55:26,511 --> 02:55:25,021
that two-year trip or maybe we did what

3196
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:26,521
if we did it for ten years or 20 years

3197
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:29,070
we come back in it five thousand years

3198
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in the future don't you think that us in

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the future would have conquered time

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travel and time machines sure right and

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so what would you and I do at ten

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thousand years in the future when we got

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back well you and I would go okay the

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earth is cool this is pretty cool ten

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thousand years in the future this is

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amazing okay now we want to go back to

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2019 and hang out with our family and

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tell them tell them what we just saw I

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would think that's what I would want to

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do I would want to be that way right I

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02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:07,950
would want to be that guy so why hasn't

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it happened right it's a very we it's

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you know and every question that you

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throw out you never know maybe I'm a

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time truck

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gym maybe you are messing with me and

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you're from the future and you're just

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testing me right now to see what I know

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exactly yes a plus though you guys there

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you go

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a gym where you come from I fell for

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Portland Oregon is it snowing up there I

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02:56:44,540 --> 02:56:42,210
heard it's snowing we got a winter storm

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warning it's supposed to kick in at like

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10 o'clock supposed to start snowing

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yeah it hasn't yet it did last night

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02:56:52,440 --> 02:56:52,080
it's gonna melt it away but yeah I've

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got

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friends that are posting the pictures in

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real time of the snow going down right

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02:57:03,540 --> 02:57:00,910
now so it looks like it's heading your

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02:57:06,270 --> 02:57:03,550
direction it's a lot too I mean it's not

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02:57:08,900 --> 02:57:06,280
like a little little dusting you got

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02:57:12,660 --> 02:57:08,910
some stones over here way yeah no right

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02:57:14,730 --> 02:57:12,670
thank you so much thank you this was

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amazing it an honor you're so incredible

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02:57:19,410 --> 02:57:16,240
thank you thank you Jim don't be a

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02:57:21,960 --> 02:57:19,420
stranger I will not hate you I'll talk

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02:57:24,060 --> 02:57:21,970
to you love first-time callers always

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02:57:25,650 --> 02:57:24,070
remember first-time callers front of the

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02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:25,660
line first-time caller

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no matter who is on hold front of the

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02:57:33,750 --> 02:57:31,540
line I enjoy that so much I want to

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02:57:37,020 --> 02:57:33,760
thank Barbara Lam tonight what an

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02:57:39,330 --> 02:57:37,030
amazing conversation and and she's so

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02:57:42,930 --> 02:57:39,340
bright so honest and so insightful and

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02:57:45,240 --> 02:57:42,940
she's got so much research that she

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02:57:48,270 --> 02:57:45,250
continues to share with all of us and

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02:57:50,820 --> 02:57:48,280
she certainly did that tonight of course

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02:57:51,890 --> 02:57:50,830
Eric awakening man coming in out of

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nowhere

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02:57:55,710 --> 02:57:54,700
that was a surprise call thank you Jim

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02:57:58,560 --> 02:57:55,720
up in Oregon

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02:58:44,710 --> 02:58:43,931
tomorrow night

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